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    Player Naturebeckles's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    People gear their jobs and play them in many different ways, this is true. Unfortunately, just because someone does something one way, for whatever reason, does not necessarily make it better or even viable. I could TP in all STR+ gear on my Monk, but I know I would be doing less damage that way, and thus be worse for it.

    FFXI math has been figured out for a very long time. It is not difficult at all to look at two different sets and determine which one will do more damage, create more hate, cure more, or enfeeble more accurately or more potently.

    Since I've been keeping up with other threads, a specific example which works out fine is your THF. You say you gear for Dex, Agi, and Chr with 0 Haste, and I am given the impression that you do not change gear between TP and Weaponskills, let alone Job Abilities. In general, I can tell you right now hitting faster would do more damage. Changing gear for weaponskills and job abilities (and thus not wearing CHR while TP'ing) would increase your damage. If you want the differences to be quantified, that is shown in numerical format, you can post exactly what it is you do use and I can compare it to an alternate set.

    I'm not saying this to "Bash" you, and I do not feel that I am being rude or insulting at all. I am simply offering you the opportunity to improve.
    I don't read you that way at all, so you're fine. I do have haste on my thf. It's just not my emphasis. I wear the Aurore Hat and Gloves (when I don't need my TH gloves), the earring from ZM with the enhancing dual wield effect and the Swift Belt. That's all the haste gear I wear.
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    I don't read you that way at all, so you're fine. I do have haste on my thf. It's just not my emphasis. I wear the Aurore Hat and Gloves (when I don't need my TH gloves), the earring from ZM with the enhancing dual wield effect and the Swift Belt. That's all the haste gear I wear.
    So you're the one the OP is trying to protect.
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    Player Naturebeckles's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream_Soda View Post
    So you're the one the OP is trying to protect.


    Obviously.

    Tired of hearing yourself talk yet? I bet you make yourself laugh.
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    Obviously.

    Tired of hearing yourself talk yet? I bet you make yourself laugh.
    The day CS gets tired of hearing himself talk is the day the internet isn't worth bothering with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    The day CS gets tired of hearing himself talk is the day the internet isn't worth bothering with.
    lol, so you've seen my threads in General? I've never seen you post there, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream_Soda View Post
    lol, so you've seen my threads in General? I've never seen you post there, lol.
    Yeah. Shit's amazing. I posted there occasional, but not much. Obviously can't post anymore, since i'm banned, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    Obviously.

    Tired of hearing yourself talk yet? I bet you make yourself laugh.
    I don't see why people get upset at others who offer advice to improve.
    The biebs is right on this one.
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    Player Naturebeckles's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepharite View Post
    I don't see why people get upset at others who offer advice to improve.
    The biebs is right on this one.


    Often it is the way in which that advice is given.

    When somebody says: "You're a bad player because you don't do this or that", I'm likely to not listen to them. Great Guardian is good though. He's very good at giving helpful advice to others without sounding condescending towards them.
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    Often it is the way in which that advice is given.

    When somebody says: "You're a bad player because you don't do this or that", I'm likely to not listen to them. Great Guardian is good though. He's very good at giving helpful advice to others without sounding condescending towards them.

    You can only attempt to offer correct advice so many times before its pointless.
    After that, its about making the player with the incorrect mindset look bad so others don't follow their example.

    Some people won't change their mindset no matter how wrong they are, so others try to make sure the correct info is out there.
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    Player Naturebeckles's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepharite View Post
    After that, its about making the player with the incorrect mindset look bad so others don't follow their example.
    It's not up to you or anybody else to make people look bad just so others don't follow them. Why don't you let people make up their minds for themselves? I highly doubt most of you actually "care" about most people who play the game anyway. You're going to do what you do and they're going to do what they do. Like-minded people will stick together. You don't need to make the extra effort to make others look bad. People like me will just sit here and think you do it just to make yourself feel better. No thanks.
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

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