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    Player Greatguardian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    I agree with you on this. But... with all the different game opinions out there, many GOOD players are going to still disagree on what gear they think is best based on how they want to play their job. There is enough flexibility in each job to play it in different ways. So, based on my original point that following somebody's opinion on the best gear isn't going to make somebody a worse player... I'm still right.
    People gear their jobs and play them in many different ways, this is true. Unfortunately, just because someone does something one way, for whatever reason, does not necessarily make it better or even viable. I could TP in all STR+ gear on my Monk, but I know I would be doing less damage that way, and thus be worse for it.

    FFXI math has been figured out for a very long time. It is not difficult at all to look at two different sets and determine which one will do more damage, create more hate, cure more, or enfeeble more accurately or more potently.

    Since I've been keeping up with other threads, a specific example which works out fine is your THF. You say you gear for Dex, Agi, and Chr with 0 Haste, and I am given the impression that you do not change gear between TP and Weaponskills, let alone Job Abilities. In general, I can tell you right now hitting faster would do more damage. Changing gear for weaponskills and job abilities (and thus not wearing CHR while TP'ing) would increase your damage. If you want the differences to be quantified, that is shown in numerical format, you can post exactly what it is you do use and I can compare it to an alternate set.

    I'm not saying this to "Bash" you, and I do not feel that I am being rude or insulting at all. I am simply offering you the opportunity to improve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I'm not saying this to "Bash" you, and I do not feel that I am being rude or insulting at all. I am simply offering you the opportunity to improve.
    I don't see any bash or insult in there. Lol. I think people have a different opinion on what "bashing" is. You gave your opinion on gear, and merely stated you feel u can help her improve. Bashing to me is name calling, demeaning a player, telling them how much they suck, or making them feel like they suck by boasting of how good a player you are. If you insulted him/her, you stated it was not ur intention. Thus there is no "Bashing" in my opinion. Also in my opinion I don't think SE would think so either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    People gear their jobs and play them in many different ways, this is true. Unfortunately, just because someone does something one way, for whatever reason, does not necessarily make it better or even viable. I could TP in all STR+ gear on my Monk, but I know I would be doing less damage that way, and thus be worse for it.

    FFXI math has been figured out for a very long time. It is not difficult at all to look at two different sets and determine which one will do more damage, create more hate, cure more, or enfeeble more accurately or more potently.

    Since I've been keeping up with other threads, a specific example which works out fine is your THF. You say you gear for Dex, Agi, and Chr with 0 Haste, and I am given the impression that you do not change gear between TP and Weaponskills, let alone Job Abilities. In general, I can tell you right now hitting faster would do more damage. Changing gear for weaponskills and job abilities (and thus not wearing CHR while TP'ing) would increase your damage. If you want the differences to be quantified, that is shown in numerical format, you can post exactly what it is you do use and I can compare it to an alternate set.

    I'm not saying this to "Bash" you, and I do not feel that I am being rude or insulting at all. I am simply offering you the opportunity to improve.
    I don't read you that way at all, so you're fine. I do have haste on my thf. It's just not my emphasis. I wear the Aurore Hat and Gloves (when I don't need my TH gloves), the earring from ZM with the enhancing dual wield effect and the Swift Belt. That's all the haste gear I wear.
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    I don't read you that way at all, so you're fine. I do have haste on my thf. It's just not my emphasis. I wear the Aurore Hat and Gloves (when I don't need my TH gloves), the earring from ZM with the enhancing dual wield effect and the Swift Belt. That's all the haste gear I wear.
    So you're the one the OP is trying to protect.
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    Player Naturebeckles's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream_Soda View Post
    So you're the one the OP is trying to protect.


    Obviously.

    Tired of hearing yourself talk yet? I bet you make yourself laugh.
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    Obviously.

    Tired of hearing yourself talk yet? I bet you make yourself laugh.
    The day CS gets tired of hearing himself talk is the day the internet isn't worth bothering with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    The day CS gets tired of hearing himself talk is the day the internet isn't worth bothering with.
    lol, so you've seen my threads in General? I've never seen you post there, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream_Soda View Post
    lol, so you've seen my threads in General? I've never seen you post there, lol.
    Yeah. Shit's amazing. I posted there occasional, but not much. Obviously can't post anymore, since i'm banned, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    Obviously.

    Tired of hearing yourself talk yet? I bet you make yourself laugh.
    I don't see why people get upset at others who offer advice to improve.
    The biebs is right on this one.
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    Player Naturebeckles's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nepharite View Post
    I don't see why people get upset at others who offer advice to improve.
    The biebs is right on this one.


    Often it is the way in which that advice is given.

    When somebody says: "You're a bad player because you don't do this or that", I'm likely to not listen to them. Great Guardian is good though. He's very good at giving helpful advice to others without sounding condescending towards them.
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

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