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    Player Naturebeckles's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amerlyn View Post
    I've seen several post already where someone has posted something (a suggestion) and a more Skilled player has decided it was a good idea to bash the player for his/her inabilities.

    This forum was started for general game discussions/suggestions. Not meant to demean a player for his/her thoughts. You either agree with them or you don't. No need to make yourself feel big because you can do something another player can't by telling them how pathetic they are.

    I really don't think SE started this site to read about how good you are and see how much you rub it in to those who can't. I'm pretty sure they started this site so people can give they're suggestions to things they think need to be changed. Idea to improve game play. Pass on your knowledge and skill to inexperienced players. Not constantly bash them.

    So please. Keep it polite. Try to stay on topic. If you agree, but want to add something to the idea to make it better, do so. If you disagree with it, disagree and explain why the CHANGE wouldn't increase game play, but keep it civil to other players and stop bashing them b/c they are having difficulties with something.
    I don't think it's going to stop simply because the people who player bash on these forums are also doing it in the game and I don't think their attitude is going to change. Don't mean to be pessimistic... but I'm just sayin'
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    I don't think it's going to stop simply because the people who player bash on these forums are also doing it in the game and I don't think their attitude is going to change. Don't mean to be pessimistic... but I'm just sayin'
    This in a nutshell. If people constantly post stupid crap and try to say they're right even tho other people have told them they're wrong, *Black Belt vs Twilight Belt Thread for example* then they're going to get what's coming to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNK View Post
    This in a nutshell. If people constantly post stupid crap and try to say they're right even tho other people have told them they're wrong, *Black Belt vs Twilight Belt Thread for example* then they're going to get what's coming to them.
    It may be stupid to you and other people, but might have meaning to them. For example: A friend of mine likes Ketchup/Hot Sauce with Ramen Noodles he thinks its delicious. I think its stupid and disgusting. But I don't bash him for it. If someone refuses to take your advice on something, don't take offense and start bashing him/her because you think hes and idiot. Just leave it be. Its his/her choice whether they want to take your suggestion/advice. If they start the bashing then ignore them. Theres no reason to keep the drama going and feed them. Let the hostility end with them. Eventually they will get what is coming to them. Eventually they will learn you were correct.

    As much as I want people to be polite, and i KNOW its in them. I've been on the internet a long time and know people don't care about someone they can't see/hear and don't know. I just cross my fingers and hope my words will at least have some effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amerlyn View Post
    It may be stupid to you and other people, but might have meaning to them. For example: A friend of mine likes Ketchup/Hot Sauce with Ramen Noodles he thinks its delicious. I think its stupid and disgusting. But I don't bash him for it. If someone refuses to take your advice on something, don't take offense and start bashing him/her because you think hes and idiot. Just leave it be. Its his/her choice whether they want to take your suggestion/advice. If they start the bashing then ignore them. Theres no reason to keep the drama going and feed them. Let the hostility end with them. Eventually they will get what is coming to them. Eventually they will learn you were correct.

    As much as I want people to be polite, and i KNOW its in them. I've been on the internet a long time and know people don't care about someone they can't see/hear and don't know. I just cross my fingers and hope my words will at least have some effect.
    You should bash him for it. Ketchup is a sin against nature; it and those who consume it should be erased from the earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    You should bash him for it. Ketchup is a sin against nature; it and those who consume it should be erased from the earth.
    Holy shit, this too.

    Yesssss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amerlyn View Post
    It may be stupid to you and other people, but might have meaning to them.
    Meaning to them is one thing. Being blantently stupid is another. Cream Soda posted why Twilight Belt on MNK is bad and he still had to deal with a person who's head is up their ass even tho the math was posted right in front of them.

    Food and People shouldn't be compared. Food doesn't get to be stupid. It just gets eaten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amerlyn View Post
    It may be stupid to you and other people, but might have meaning to them. For example: A friend of mine likes Ketchup/Hot Sauce with Ramen Noodles he thinks its delicious. I think its stupid and disgusting. But I don't bash him for it. If someone refuses to take your advice on something, don't take offense and start bashing him/her because you think hes and idiot. Just leave it be. Its his/her choice whether they want to take your suggestion/advice. If they start the bashing then ignore them. Theres no reason to keep the drama going and feed them. Let the hostility end with them. Eventually they will get what is coming to them. Eventually they will learn you were correct.

    As much as I want people to be polite, and i KNOW its in them. I've been on the internet a long time and know people don't care about someone they can't see/hear and don't know. I just cross my fingers and hope my words will at least have some effect.
    That's not really the point.

    and that's also not a good comparison.

    Your ramen noodle comparison is strictly based on opinion.

    Which of the two belts in the black belt vs twilight thread is capable of dealing more damage is a fact (yes you can math it out and see which one is physically better).

    When you have one person giving hurtful advice to others, unless they're promptly corrected, someone is going to take that person seriously and become a worse player because of it.


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    after reading your opinion thing, that's not the case at all.

    he wasn't saying "I think X is better than Y"

    he was making a statement "X deals more damage than Y" as a fact, not as an opinion. And it was an incorrect fact.
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    Player Naturebeckles's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream_Soda View Post
    That's not really the point.

    and that's also not a good comparison.

    Your ramen noodle comparison is strictly based on opinion.

    Which of the two belts in the black belt vs twilight thread is capable of dealing more damage is a fact (yes you can math it out and see which one is physically better).

    When you have one person giving hurtful advice to others, unless they're promptly corrected, someone is going to take that person seriously and become a worse player because of it.


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    after reading your opinion thing, that's not the case at all.

    he wasn't saying "I think X is better than Y"

    he was making a statement "X deals more damage than Y" as a fact, not as an opinion. And it was an incorrect fact.
    People aren't worse players because of the gear they choose. They're worse because of how they play. Whms that don't do anything but cast cure, no matter how great the gear they have on are still bad Whms.
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naturebeckles View Post
    People aren't worse players because of the gear they choose. They're worse because of how they play. Whms that don't do anything but cast cure, no matter how great the gear they have on are still bad Whms.
    Gear doesn't make a bad player good, but it makes a good player better.

    Great gear is not required to be a good player, no. But a truly good player would research and learn to understand the mechanics behind their job and the game itself and use what gear, within their reach and circumstances, is best.
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    Player Naturebeckles's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Gear doesn't make a bad player good, but it makes a good player better.

    Great gear is not required to be a good player, no. But a truly good player would research and learn to understand the mechanics behind their job and the game itself and use what gear, within their reach and circumstances, is best.
    I agree with you on this. But... with all the different game opinions out there, many GOOD players are going to still disagree on what gear they think is best based on how they want to play their job. There is enough flexibility in each job to play it in different ways. So, based on my original point that following somebody's opinion on the best gear isn't going to make somebody a worse player... I'm still right.
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    Level 99 jobs: THF, WAR, SAM, SMN, WHM. Haste is overrated. Ok. Not really. But that's what you all think I believe anyway.

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