Stop Player Bashing

[Naturebeckles]

Edit: So this doesn't start another 20-page crap fest, Nature advocated a *Gearing* style which is wrong. Her actual playstyle hasn't come into play, which I think is the reason she's being so defensive. It's a hop, skip, and a jump for most people to go from "Insisting on gearing incorrectly" > "Not wanting to improve" > "Being a bad player for not wanting to get better", but I don't think that line of thought is being followed by some and it is causing some confusion.

Correct and thanks for posting that. 25% slow + is gear is still swinging slower than somebody not wearing slow or haste gear, which does not make it the same. Just... sayin'.

[Greatguardian]

Correct and thanks for posting that. 25% slow + is gear is still swinging slower than somebody not wearing slow or haste gear, which does not make it the same. Just... sayin'.

And 0% Haste gear is still slower than 25% haste gear, which does make it the same. If you're saying that the difference between 25% haste and 25% slow is larger than the difference between 25% haste and 0% haste, you are absolutely correct. However, they both still constitute massive losses in damage. It's like saying getting a 50 on an exam is better than getting a 30 on an exam, when others are trying to say it would be better to just get a 90 on the exam.

[Naturebeckles]

And 0% Haste gear is still slower than 25% haste gear, which does make it the same. If you're saying that the difference between 25% haste and 25% slow is larger than the difference between 25% haste and 0% haste, you are absolutely correct. However, they both still constitute massive losses in damage. It's like saying getting a 50 on an exam is better than getting a 30 on an exam, when others are trying to say it would be better to just get a 90 on the exam.

well, that is true. I can't remember if it was this thread or another, but I really am not bothered by being outperformed by other players who are haste geared. I'm just bothered by that hop, skip, jump thinking you mentioned before.

[Nepharite]

well, that is true. I can't remember if it was this thread or another, but I really am not bothered by being outperformed by other players who are haste geared. I'm just bothered by that hop, skip, jump thinking you mentioned before.

I think what gets people is that unwillingness to improve one self.

[Samunai]

i only used twat for a general sense of pointing out to a group of ppl.... more not

for the rest i really gave in some threads my opinion... but again in general senses not directly to one person. =)

[Nepharite]

25% slow vs 0% haste/slow = 0% haste/slow vs 25% haste

[Darka]

It's not really that, more like nobody cares what you personally wear unless it affects them. Ie:

If you party with someone wearing bad choices of equipment, you infringe on THEIR time and they will probably complain.
If you claim X is > than Y if in truth Y is > X then you will be corrected, further contradiction will cause people to bash you
Edit: Misinforming players with poor knowledge about the game, nobody likes seeing this

Remember, it's a community game, if your "playstyle" hinders another player, they will let you know.

[Naturebeckles]

It's not really that, more like nobody cares what you personally wear unless it affects them. Ie:

If you party with someone wearing bad choices of equipment, you infringe on THEIR time and they will probably complain.
If you claim X is > than Y if in truth Y is > X then you will be corrected, further contradiction will cause people to bash you

Remember, it's a community game, if your "playstyle" hinders another player, they will let you know.

Ok, (to both you and Vinc)... but I don't think I play on the same server as any of them (except Cream_Soda). So... it's not like their personal game play is affected by me.

[Greatguardian]

Ok, (to both you and Vinc)... but I don't think I play on the same server as any of them (except Cream_Soda). So... it's not like their personal game play is affected by me.

I doubt it's so much that they are personally being infringed upon, but that they worry that your comments will move other people to do things that would infringe upon them. To keep the metaphor going, it would be like being in a study session and having someone say "You only need to get a 70 to pass the test, I'm fine with passing" when other people are trying to help others get A's. Of course the tutors are going to be upset about it. It doesn't bother them if you choose to get a 70 on your exam and be okay with passing, but it does bother them when you talk about it in front of other students who may then decide that it's okay to get a 70 instead of studying and getting an A.

[Darka]

I doubt it's so much that they are personally being infringed upon, but that they worry that your comments will move other people to do things that would infringe upon them.

Yeah that's a point too ^ There's a bad case of blind leading the blind in XI, another cause for bashing