Stop Player Bashing

[Darka]

So, would you tell a WAR without a Ridell or Maneater that they can't party with you in the Wajaom Woodlands bird camps just because they didn't have those?

Gearing correctly and being pimp are not the same thing. Some Haste is good, capped is better, but I'd take some a some Haste player over a no Haste player. It's not just Haste etc, just an example

[Naturebeckles]

Gearing correctly and being pimp are not the same thing. Some Haste is good, capped is better, but I'd take some a some Haste player over a no Haste player. It's not just Haste etc, just an example

Cool then. Then you would find yourself partying with me as I make sure I have at least SOME haste on all my DD jobs that I have leveled. hell, I'd probably haste my mage jobs too and it would help with spells, right?

Edit: I meant with spell casting... recast times, etc

[Greatguardian]

So, would you tell a WAR without a Ridell or Maneater that they can't party with you in the Wajaom Woodlands bird camps just because they didn't have those?

As has been pointed out dozens of times already, there is a difference between "Having smart gear that's good for the player's means" and "Intentionally using worse gear than the player could have". Walahra Turban and Dusk Gloves are free and 10k-ish respectively, and both handily beat out Aurore head and hands. Aurore feet and legs? Eh, not as huge a deal to me when you've got a newer player, as the alternatives take more effort to get.

Swapping gear is a pretty big deal, too; especially since macros pretty much require just sitting down for 5 minutes, writing them up, and then not having to worry about them for the majority of your playtime.

It's everyone's right to gear however they want. It's also everyone's right to refuse to deal with people who are gearing in a way which would negatively affect their run. I don't see why one is acceptable while another is not.

[Naturebeckles]

As has been pointed out dozens of times already, there is a difference between "Having smart gear that's good for the player's means" and "Intentionally using worse gear than the player could have". Walahra Turban and Dusk Gloves are free and 10k-ish respectively, and both handily beat out Aurore head and hands. Aurore feet and legs? Eh, not as huge a deal to me when you've got a newer player, as the alternatives take more effort to get.

Swapping gear is a pretty big deal, too; especially since macros pretty much require just sitting down for 5 minutes, writing them up, and then not having to worry about them for the majority of your playtime.

It's everyone's right to gear however they want. It's also everyone's right to refuse to deal with people who are gearing in a way which would negatively affect their run. I don't see why one is acceptable while another is not.

I wear the Aurore hat and gloves because they have str dex and/or agi on them with the haste which overall helps thf better than the dusk gloves and walmart turban. (sylph term if nobody else has heard of that before).

I actually had somebody tell me that once after being invited to their party. I was mad they wouldn't let me party just because I didn't have either of those on my War. So, that's why I asked when you don't like players getting mad at you because you don't them play with you if they're poorly geared. Your version of poorly geared is different than other people's version. That was an example.

[Sp1cyryan]

I've seen several post already where someone has posted something (a suggestion) and a more Skilled player has decided it was a good idea to bash the player for his/her inabilities.

This forum was started for general game discussions/suggestions. Not meant to demean a player for his/her thoughts. You either agree with them or you don't. No need to make yourself feel big because you can do something another player can't by telling them how pathetic they are.

I really don't think SE started this site to read about how good you are and see how much you rub it in to those who can't. I'm pretty sure they started this site so people can give they're suggestions to things they think need to be changed. Idea to improve game play. Pass on your knowledge and skill to inexperienced players. Not constantly bash them.

So please. Keep it polite. Try to stay on topic. If you agree, but want to add something to the idea to make it better, do so. If you disagree with it, disagree and explain why the CHANGE wouldn't increase game play, but keep it civil to other players and stop bashing them b/c they are having difficulties with something.

There is a reason these forums are being openly mocked from every corner of the web on FFXI sites.

[Nepharite]

There is a reason these forums are being openly mocked from every corner of the web on FFXI sites.

pretty much this

[RAIST]

tldr the whole thread, just gonna drop something here that came to mind when I started reading posts.

The problem is we are dealing with Opinions...and to expand on a rough quote from Dirty Harry:

opinions are like @$$holes... everybody has one.

...doesn't mean everyone wants to hear it.

Raist

[Cream_Soda]

There is a reason these forums are being openly mocked from every corner of the web on FFXI sites.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/103...ums-BG-Edition

[Sp1cyryan]

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/103...ums-BG-Edition

Yeah, there are multiple threads on AH.com and other places that just make me facedesk.

The whole forum has a casual atmosphere, bad suggestions, lack of knowledge of the jobs, lack of common sense, desire to bitch about things (BLU AF3 DOES NOT LOOK AS GOOD AS I EXPECTED GUIZ), and so on.

After looking around here for a few days I can only hope the dev team does not even read anything here.

[Cream_Soda]

After looking around here for a few days I can only hope the dev team does not even read anything here.

Pretty much the general view of all the other forums.