Stop Player Bashing

[Naturebeckles]

Yeah that's a point too ^ There's a bad case of blind leading the blind in XI, another cause for bashing

I really hate that you use other people's failures (intentional or not) as a cause for bashing them.

[Naturebeckles]

I doubt it's so much that they are personally being infringed upon, but that they worry that your comments will move other people to do things that would infringe upon them. To keep the metaphor going, it would be like being in a study session and having someone say "You only need to get a 70 to pass the test, I'm fine with passing" when other people are trying to help others get A's. Of course the tutors are going to be upset about it. It doesn't bother them if you choose to get a 70 on your exam and be okay with passing, but it does bother them when you talk about it in front of other students who may then decide that it's okay to get a 70 instead of studying and getting an A.

Well then it's other people's own fault for letting a person who is okay with getting a 70 convince them to do the same if they would otherwise want to get a 90. That's not the fault of the person who is okay with a 70. That person should not strive to do better just for the sake of other people. It's always what's about what you're okay with your own life. I don't live my life to please other people in RL (to an extent) and I don't do it in the game either.

[Darka]

Ok, (to both you and Vinc)... but I don't think I play on the same server as any of them (except Cream_Soda). So... it's not like their personal game play is affected by me.

It doesn't really have to be their own personal time, most will typically assume that others' personal time is being wasted, and will speak out about it. Most people have been in those situations, and tend to dislike people who won't meet normal community expectations. I'm not trying to bash, but it really is a fix it or deal with it scenario.

[Nepharite]

Ok using the same ideals you use.
Player A doesn't want to gear corectly, but wants to do X event.
Player B is doing X event and player A ask to joins. After looking at players A's gear, player B doesn't allow player A to come.
Player A calls player B an elitist, pretty much player bashing player B because he doesn't want the burden of player A.

How is this acceptable for player A to call player B an elitist and not for player B to call player A a poorly geared player?

[Naturebeckles]

Ok using the same ideals you use.
Player A doesn't want to gear corectly, but wants to do X event.
Player B is doing X event and player A ask to joins. After looking at players A's gear, player B doesn't allow player A to come.
Player A calls player B an elitist, pretty much player bashing player B because he doesn't want the burden of player A.

How is this acceptable for player A to call player B an elitist and not for player B to call player A a poorly geared player?

Yeah well. last night people weren't just calling me a poorly geared player. They were calling me a bad player. Period. If they had left it at "you're a poorly geared player" I would not have gotten so offended or defensive.

[cidbahamut]

Yeah well. last night people weren't just calling me a poorly geared player. They were calling me a bad player. Period. If they had left it at "you're a poorly geared player" I would not have gotten so offended or defensive.

Part of being a good player is gearing correctly. You are not gearing correctly despite knowing better.

Do you see the discrepancy here?

[Greatguardian]

Ok using the same ideals you use.
Player A doesn't want to gear corectly, but wants to do X event.
Player B is doing X event and player A ask to joins. After looking at players A's gear, player B doesn't allow player A to come.
Player A calls player B an elitist, pretty much player bashing player B because he doesn't want the burden of player A.

How is this acceptable for player A to call player B an elitist and not for player B to call player A a poorly geared player?

This is something that needs to be addressed for sure. I don't mind if players don't gear properly, that's their choice in the end. But to call others rude, elitist, or jerks (I've been called much, much worse) because we don't want to party with them is just wrong. They were given a choice, they made it, they can live with not getting an invite from people with standards.

[Naturebeckles]

This is something that needs to be addressed for sure. I don't mind if players don't gear properly, that's their choice in the end. But to call others rude, elitist, or jerks (I've been called much, much worse) because we don't want to party with them is just wrong. They were given a choice, they made it, they can live with not getting an invite from people with standards.

So, would you tell a WAR without a Ridell or Maneater that they can't party with you in the Wajaom Woodlands bird camps just because they didn't have those?

[Cream_Soda]

So, would you tell a WAR without a Ridell or Maneater that they can't party with you in the Wajaom Woodlands bird camps just because they didn't have those?

I would tell a war he couldn't pt with me if he DID use those silly weapons in any party of mine.

[Naturebeckles]

I would tell a war he couldn't pt with me if he DID use those silly weapons in any party of mine.

LOL!!!!! Awesome! This was back in the level 75 days, btw.