[dev1064] Job Adjustments: Weapon Skills

[Staren]

Monk and WAR got absolutely nothing in this update. WAR actually got a nerf already. These jobs do not need to be nerfed. If you have PUP's complaining and any other gimp job complaining please make them stronger. This is not acceptable to attempt to gimp jobs that have received absolutely nothing for several updates. Don't even get me started on the new WS's you don't get aftermath for them and in general they blow. Camate please tell me the Dev's aren't going to make people mass exodus a job just to appease a minority that is unhappy with their DPS. This is not a community friendly SE and is not a community focused SE. I already was tempted to quit with the phone service I received after being hacked and the month long process the company took before even starting to work on my accounts. This would be the final icing on the cake. Please tell me the company is not so senile or retarded to completely screw jobs that are fun to play and not as overpowered as you're trying to make them out to be.

[Runespider]

When I vent on here it's to make myself feel a bit better about the poor crap we have to put up with on a game I love and have put a lot of time into, I know however that they will ignore it and nothing will change. The reps here can't really help us cause the devs/tanaka don't give a shit what we think, aby team listened to us...these guys will never do the same...ever, going down in flames is preferable (as shown by ff14).

It's like back when endgamers complained about HNM, Sundi agreed and tried to talk to the devs to get it changed and the answer was, add Sandworm and Dark Ixion...with 5-6 hour windows that can still be botted!

[Atomic_Skull]

I wholeheartedly support the upcoming balancing of Ukko's Fury and Victory Smite and applaud the developers for finally giving attention to this issue. These two WS are ridiculously overpowered and need to be brought into line with other WS in order to keep the game from becoming "Warrior and Monk Fantasy XI"

Also, this.

[FrankReynolds]

I wholeheartedly support the upcoming balancing of Ukko's Fury and Victory Smite and applaud the developers for finally giving attention to this issue. These two WS are ridiculously overpowered and need to be brought into line with other WS in order to keep the game from becoming "Warrior and Monk Fantasy XI"

You applaud them in nerfing instead of fixing the other jobs? That's lame.

[Ritsuka]

Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
I wholeheartedly support the upcoming balancing of Ukko's Fury and Victory Smite and applaud the developers for finally giving attention to this issue. These two WS are ridiculously overpowered and need to be brought into line with other WS in order to keep the game from becoming "Warrior and Monk Fantasy XI"

You applaud them in nerfing instead of fixing the other jobs? That's lame.

they only agree with SE cuz they suck and arnt able to get that weapon skill. I have admit even tho i have Blade: hi mnks ws is i think alot better. I might have to lvl mnk now if im able too that is.

[Alhanelem]

I wholeheartedly support the upcoming balancing of Ukko's Fury and Victory Smite and applaud the developers for finally giving attention to this issue. These two WS are ridiculously overpowered and need to be brought into line with other WS in order to keep the game from becoming "Warrior and Monk Fantasy XI"

Also, this.

They don't need to nerf WAR and MNK (and even PUP) to achieve balance. They need to bring the other jobs up to the same level. This is level 99! WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FEEL MORE POWERFUL NOW! But we don't really. They're basically making level 99 power feel exactly the same as level 75 power. Hell, in a relative sense, I think I feel weaker now than I did then!

The devs talked about damage inflation. Damage is SUPPOSED to inflate when you get to higher levels! But the monsters gain more HP too, so it's balanced... Nerfing new weapon skills such that the old ones are still the best is stupid. Nerfing new job abilities makes giving them in the first place pointless.

It's a real simple situation. Nerfing is a negative approach and makes players affected by the nerf unhappy. By comparison, buffs to other jobs make lots of players happy, doesn't really make many people unhappy, and th e whole general vibe from the players in the game is more positive. why not do the thing that makes everyone happy instead of the thing that pisses some people off?

[Theytak]

They don't need to nerf WAR and MNK (and even PUP) to achieve balance. They need to bring the other jobs up to the same level. This is level 99! WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FEEL MORE POWERFUL NOW! But we don't really. They're basically making level 99 power feel exactly the same as level 75 power. Hell, in a relative sense, I think I feel weaker now than I did then!

The devs talked about damage inflation. Damage is SUPPOSED to inflate when you get to higher levels! But the monsters gain more HP too, so it's balanced... Nerfing new weapon skills such that the old ones are still the best is stupid. Nerfing new job abilities makes giving them in the first place pointless.

It's a real simple situation. Nerfing is a negative approach and makes players affected by the nerf unhappy. By comparison, buffs to other jobs make lots of players happy, doesn't really make many people unhappy, and th e whole general vibe from the players in the game is more positive. why not do the thing that makes everyone happy instead of the thing that pisses some people off?

stop including pup. It's not a pup nerf. The only reason pups with verethragna use VS is because of aftermath. Stringing Pummel is just as strong as VS is now, so even if they nerf VS to kingdom come, pup won't really feel it.

[Alhanelem]

stop including pup. It's not a pup nerf. The only reason pups with verethragna use VS is because of aftermath. Stringing Pummel is just as strong as VS is now, so even if they nerf VS to kingdom come, pup won't really feel it.

Actually, you dont even need the aftermath for it to be worth it. You can solo light easily with two smites using the automaton's TP or follow the automaton to do it. If two smites don't kill it, light will.

[Theytak]

Actually, you dont even need the aftermath for it to be worth it. You can solo light easily with two smites using the automaton's TP or follow the automaton to do it. If two smites don't kill it, light will.

I'm trying to wrap my head around what you're describing, but I'm just getting static. I think I've probably reached a stopping point for today's forum shenanigans....

[newmonkey]

So funny you lot laughed at relic holders when 85 empyreans came out, time for a little pay back i think.

I fully support the nerf fury and smite were to overpowered.