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    Assuming I'm ever allowed to play another job once I finish Daurdabla (or just go solo) I'm going to finish BLU off, try and decide for myself what are the best combinations of traits/spells, and then read the guide and see how close I got (and likely change accordingly).

    Sometimes, learning is the fun part.
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    To each his or her own. It also functions as a nice encyclopedia for spell info, job trait combinations, and subjobs/party roles, if you don't want to follow its instructions for various events and spell setups verbatim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zadimortis View Post
    To each his or her own. It also functions as a nice encyclopedia for spell info, job trait combinations, and subjobs/party roles, if you don't want to follow its instructions for various events and spell setups verbatim.
    There is, of course, a difference between someone who leeched the job to 99 and needs to read a guide on how to play the job, and someone who has pretty much solo'd exp while farming (all of, not just the ones required for procs/JTs) the spells, looking up job traits as new spells become available, playing around to see which spells work best with which WS for a self-SC and trying for the best combination of JTs and spells for the blue magic points and spell slots available.

    Then doing it all again when you level up.

    It's all very well looking up bits of information here and there to see where you're going wrong, what is everyone else doing, but if everyone wore the same gear, set the same spells and had the same merits... then what's the point in choice?

    Then again, some people are designed to follow orders, and others are designed to be leaders. I see you linked to a 'guide', yet you see it as 'instructions'.
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    Just tryin' to help. Don't know where all this berating is coming from. Use it or not.
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    Don't make me get metaphorical with you.

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    The guide on FFXIAH by Prothescar is a exellent guide for new, returning and experienced players alike.

    It does not cover EVERYTHING, but almost.

    Any inventive player will take ideas and synthesize them to their own liking.

    Reading the guide motivated me to play blue mage more (its my 2nd job up) and update my gear and sets, which I haven't really done much with since level 90.
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    Choh Moui | Rongo-Nango | Lhu Mhakaracca | Lungo-Nango | Nyumomo
    --Beastmaster Forever--

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    Assuming I'm ever allowed to play another job once I finish Daurdabla (or just go solo) I'm going to finish BLU off, try and decide for myself what are the best combinations of traits/spells, and then read the guide and see how close I got (and likely change accordingly).

    Sometimes, learning is the fun part.
    I'd be slightly careful, Proth is a good offensive BLU but absolutely hates the idea of a BLU casting a support spell.. ever. If all I expected from a BLU was offensive power then I wouldn't be using BLU and instead would of brought a WAR / SAM / DRK / MNK / ect. BLU's real strength is that it has high offensive power and utility / support in a single package. They can go /WAR for bergressor and DA while still having aoe erase, cheap heals, stuns and sleeps. Requiescat and Sang blade while being weaker then CDC both are powerful vs things that other melee's would be crippled on (PDT).

    Great guide for how to build a melee set, severely lacks the support side (he never once mentioned healing).
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    Last edited by saevel; 09-08-2012 at 11:49 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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    YOu need to read it a little better chap, there's an entire section about healing.

    I've even included a cure potency set and support spells in every spell set there. Not sure what you're on about
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    Last edited by Prothscar; 09-09-2012 at 03:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothscar View Post
    YOu need to read it a little better chap, there's an entire section about healing.

    I've even included a cure potency set and support spells in every spell set there. Not sure what you're on about
    Bulvine Scatology.

    You've since added those sections. When I read your "guide" it was DD and DD onry. This is reflected in section VII which doesn't include the healing aspect at all yet the previous sections have since been amended.
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    Last edited by saevel; 09-09-2012 at 10:26 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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    I've done nothing of the sort. The only things I've changed or added to the guide were errors and updates to gearsets, the merit section, the job abilities section, and breaths in the calculation section. I haven't edited it in a few weeks now, and I actually have to edit the PDT set at some point. There are even suggestions on editing the cure potency set as early as page two.

    You need to try harder to defame me, and I have to remind you that not everyone is so genuinely stupid that they'll believe your nonsense.
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    Last edited by Prothscar; 09-10-2012 at 10:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothscar View Post
    I've done nothing of the sort. The only things I've changed or added to the guide were errors and updates to gearsets, the merit section, the job abilities section, and breaths in the calculation section. I haven't edited it in a few weeks now, and I actually have to edit the PDT set at some point. There are even suggestions on editing the cure potency set as early as page two.

    You need to try harder to defame me, and I have to remind you that not everyone is so genuinely stupid that they'll believe your nonsense.
    You can toss insults as much as you want, it won't change anything. It's pretty well known that you believe a BLU should never cast cure or any form of support and only exists for dealing damage, supporting itself and the occasional tanking scenario. Your guide is pretty straight forward on this issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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