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  1. #11
    Player Genralzod's Avatar
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    boosts to attack rating do affect Blue physical spells, souleater, last resort, boost, plenilune embrace, fantod, warcry, berserk etc, even SATA. This is why Fantod is consumed after casting, and since Triumphant Roar is a stackable seperate attack boost, there's no reason to suggest it wont boost the physical spells. Unless there's a math wiz out there that can show me some testing. in my opinion ATK has a role in Physical spells, just like M.ATK has a role in the magical spells.
    (side note: wierd how physical spells behave as physical attacks in every way except they proc Azure Lights?)
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  2. #12
    Player Kwate's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macrom View Post
    I duo alot with a BLM, while the BLM is out pulling spam Fantod as much as you can, when you see him coming in use Memento Mori > Burst Affinity > Charged Whisker (usually around 4k -4.5k dmg) then follow it up with Thermal Pulse and watch the massive amount of chests.

    Blu is amazing if you learn the tricks to it, good hunting!!!
    Fantod is broken, as the next BLU spell no matter enhancing or enemy targeted will consume its effect
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  3. #13
    Player Kwate's Avatar
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    SE really needs to fix that.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genralzod View Post
    boosts to attack rating do affect Blue physical spells, souleater, last resort, boost, plenilune embrace, fantod, warcry, berserk etc, even SATA. This is why Fantod is consumed after casting, and since Triumphant Roar is a stackable seperate attack boost, there's no reason to suggest it wont boost the physical spells. Unless there's a math wiz out there that can show me some testing. in my opinion ATK has a role in Physical spells, just like M.ATK has a role in the magical spells.
    (side note: wierd how physical spells behave as physical attacks in every way except they proc Azure Lights?)
    I'd have to look it up but there's clear testing from back when BLU first came out that it doesn't. Easiest test is to go BLU/WAR and cast spells with Defender then with Berserk. And of course there's the bonus there that if you do anything BLU/WAR you can ride defender and it won't affect your spell damage.

    Granted a few things in your list aren't an attack boost: Souleater isn't, it's a seperate factor that adds 5% of your HP to the damage regardless of attack/defense (subbed that is), Plenilune/Fantod give a MAB boost too which does work on magical spells. Sneak Attack is also not an attack boost. Trick Attack does nothing to damage with THF sub in any case.

    And sure, they could have made physical spells proc pearl, or ruby even since they're more comparable to weapon skills than regular melee hits. Very glad they made it azure.
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  5. #15
    Player Alistaire's Avatar
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    BLU Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Macrom View Post
    Atma of Beyond, Minikin, Apoc if im lazy and dont want to use RR item..... or any other MaB atma.
    You should look into Atma of the Lion. Beyond is only 30 MAB for non ice/light spells, Lion is 40 MAB for thunder spells, -10% pdt for getting beat on and 10% triple attack for pearl light building.
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  6. #16
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    BLM Lv 92
    Lion/BlindingHorn/Ultimate for aoe burn is what I use.

    Pull or have mobs pulled to you => CA Efflux Whirl of Rage => Dream Flower => heal yourself => Amplification/Sound Blast/Enervation => BA Charged Whisker for about 5.6k damage without Ascetic's. Combined with the earlier Whirl damage, not much survives!

    For general BLU stuff I tend to use

    Cocoon
    Head Butt
    Blank Gaze or Geist Wall
    Frightful Roar often if NMs
    Magic Fruit often
    Disseverment
    Actinic Burst
    Exuviation
    Plenilune Embrace
    Cimicine Discharge
    Animating Wail
    Battery Charge
    Goblin Rush
    Vanity Dive
    Quadratic Continuum
    Dream Flower
    Delta Thrust
    Winds of Promyvion

    with a few other situational spells thrown in here and there. Likely to make a more melee-trait orientated one when servers come back up.
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    This is Sakurawr, not Raen D:

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    Player Kwate's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaenRyong View Post
    Lion/BlindingHorn/Ultimate for aoe burn is what I use.

    Pull or have mobs pulled to you => CA Efflux Whirl of Rage => Dream Flower => heal yourself => Amplification/Sound Blast/Enervation => BA Charged Whisker for about 5.6k damage without Ascetic's. Combined with the earlier Whirl damage, not much survives!

    For general BLU stuff I tend to use

    Cocoon
    Head Butt
    Blank Gaze or Geist Wall
    Frightful Roar often if NMs
    Magic Fruit often
    Disseverment
    Actinic Burst
    Exuviation
    Plenilune Embrace
    Cimicine Discharge
    Animating Wail
    Battery Charge
    Goblin Rush
    Vanity Dive
    Quadratic Continuum
    Dream Flower
    Delta Thrust
    Winds of Promyvion

    with a few other situational spells thrown in here and there. Likely to make a more melee-trait orientated one when servers come back up.
    Just curious, why both?
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    Player Kwate's Avatar
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    BLU Lv 95
    My general set:

    WoP (Auto-refresh)
    Actinic Burst (Auto-refresh)
    Animating Wail
    Cocoon
    Occulation
    Zephyr Mantle
    Blank Gaze
    Battery Charge
    Dreamflower (M. Attack)
    Soundblast (M. Attack)
    Acrid Stream (DA Trait)
    Regeneration
    Magic Fruit
    Empty Thrash (DA Trait)
    Head Butt
    Delta Thrust (DW)
    Benthic Typhoon
    Quad Cut (DW)
    Whirl of Rage

    -I keep M. Attack their for Sanguine Blades (also via SB build set), i average ~800+ saved my ass several times and conserves mp.
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  9. #19
    Player RaenRyong's Avatar
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    BLM Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Kwate View Post
    Just curious, why both?
    Err, wups; was actually a typo. Used Exuviation a bit in the past and I was just going through a spell list and taking out which I used often in order; guess I brainfarted there and listed one I used to use.
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    This is Sakurawr, not Raen D:

  10. #20
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    Quetzalcoatl
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    WAR Lv 95
    We all know that BLU's versatility is obscene but I thought I'd post a couple of my most used spell sets. I'm only adding my current TP gear set since posting every different spell swap ect... would take ages.

    My current TP set is:

    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/205174

    Generally for spells I set:

    BLU/WAR (Double Attack Trait Not Required)
    Actinic Burst (4) - AOE Flash & Auto Refresh
    Goblin Rush (3) - Skillchain Bonus
    Animating Wail (5) - Haste & Dual Wield
    Quad. Cont. (4) - DMG & Dual Wield
    Delta Thrust (2) - Low Mp Dmg, Plague & Dual Wield
    Blazing Bound (3) - Dual Wield
    Battery Charge (3) - Refresh
    Winds Of Promy (5) - Aoe Erase & Auto Refresh
    Occultation (3) - Blink
    Head Butt (3) - Stun
    Auroral Drape (4) - Aoe Silence & Blind & Fast Cast
    Benthic Typhoon (4) - Darkness Closer with CDC & Completes Skillchain Bonus Trait
    Cimicine Discharge (3) - Slow
    Plenilune Embrace (4) - Cure & Attack Up
    Sub-Zero Smash (4) - Paralyze & Completes Fast Cast Trait

    Some of the enfeebling type spells are taken out depending on party/solo and replaced with spells like:
    Triumphant Roar (3) - Attack Boost (For CDC)
    Fantod (1) - Attack Boost
    ect...

    BLU/NIN (Replace Dual Wield Spells with Double Attack)

    BLU/THF (May require only setting 1 Tier of Dual Wield if Double Attack is to be set as well)
    Vanity Dive (2) - SATA/CA/Efflux DMG

    BLU/RDM
    Charged Whisker (4) - AOE Nuke
    Occultation (3) - Blink
    Dream Flower (3) - Sleepga & MAB Trait
    Thermal Pulse (3) - AOE Nuke
    Fantod (1) - Magic Boost
    Battery Charge (3) - Refresh
    Animating Wail (5) - Haste
    Leafstorm (4) - AOE Nuke
    Acrid Stream (3) - Conal Nuke & MDB Down
    Plenilune Embrace (4) - Cure & Magic Attack Boost
    Actinic Burst (4) - AOE Flash & Auto Refresh
    Amplification (3) - MAB (If Memento Mori is on recast)
    Enervation (5) - AOE MDB Down
    Memento Mori (4) - MAB and MAB Trait
    Sheep Song (2) - Sleepga
    Cocoon (1) - Defense Boost
    Whirl Of Rage (2) - AOE Physical Dmg (Macro in a sword if staves are equipped from nuking)

    These are my 3 most used setups. I didn't add a full /THF set because I generally use a hybrid of /WAR & /NIN spells. I have been experimenting with BLU/MNK lately (the last week before servers were shutdown) and may edit this post with my conclusions from that at a later date. Feel free to comment and discuss ^^
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