After 7 years...

[Kiroko]

Forum are also there for us to give feed back, and i think is what we are doing here. Hating the direction FFXI is taking, that don't mean i hate the game... Improve the game also mean listen player base, sometime i wonder if they even read.

They probably don't and I wouldn't either if I was them. I just see this as a thread for people to complain about what they hate. Yes, that's apart of the purpose, but there's not too much ideas on how to make the game better. All I see is people complaining about what they hate, there's not too much about how to make the game better. They don't know what you guys want.

[Hayward]

My starting this thread may very well have come from mental fatigue or simple boredom, but I wouldn't have posted if it were just to complain about the update. Yes 7 years is a long time to have been playing. I've mostly enjoyed my time in the game but there comes a point where it's just too difficult to keep up that enjoyment against a development team that seems intent on driving me and others away.

[Nala]

This ^ pretty much :P Some people have the social skills of a dog and think this game is all about acquiring the latest/best items right now. I don't know about you, but some of my best times in XI have been playing with random people and having fun.

While that may be true, peeps in my linkshell are becoming sparse, the people i play the game for, that is to say the people i enjoy interacting with. Though right now skyrim is mostly to blame, our numbers have been gradually thinning since we started void watch.

[Camiie]

I was really excited after this update went live.

There's actually a lot of stuff to do. My friends and I are actually logging in on weekdays for the first time in months.

I'm sorry, but I absolutely can't sympathize with you. I'm having fun.

But see you're an elite player. You've said so yourself. I think this update is great for someone like you, but for someone like me... it feels like the game is slipping away or rather slipping backwards. Once I'm finally done with Abyssea what's going to be left for a common player like me? Elemental magian trials? And against what am I to use these magian weapons? Maybe they'll come up with something, but if the past 2 updates are any indication it seems FFXI is done with the likes of me. It's all yours now, I guess.

[Greatguardian]

But see you're an elite player. You've said so yourself. I think this update is great for someone like you, but for someone like me... it feels like the game is slipping away or rather slipping backwards. Once I'm finally done with Abyssea what's going to be left for a common player like me? Elemental magian trials? And against what am I to use these magian weapons? Maybe they'll come up with something, but if the past 2 updates are any indication it seems FFXI is done with the likes of me. It's all yours now, I guess.

This is what I don't understand.

What about these past few updates has been elite content? Voidwatch? That's about it for things that require a linkshell or alliance, really. Anyone can solo Dynamis, and there's now actually stuff to get from it aside from currency. Relic+2 is pretty nice stuff, and the "+3" augments look interesting to say the least.

Walk of Echoes is mostly casual pickup stuff, and while it's often relegated to untenable status due to a lack of interest on most servers, this affects both elite and regular players equally. I leveled Summoner for WoE because going in solo without support on any non-pet job was just asking to eat dirt the whole time.

Some of the new WS are actually worth getting, this is especially true for non-relic non-Empyrean players. They were most certainly not built for anyone who had actually completed Empyreans. They're also obtained via EXP, which is pretty much the definition of non-elite event.

I mean really, even if you're solo, casual, and have no gear beyond full perle you can solo Dynamis at your own pace to complete whatever Relic+2/3 you want. You'll even earn a nice chunk of change by selling off the ancient currency or unnecessary "Forgotten" pieces later.

[Kimble]

Well, a few things.

One, telling them you don't like where the game is going is good feedback. It's pretty much saying, "whatever you do, don't keep dong this"

I think really the problem has come down to "great, i just got all this new gear... now what do I do with it?"

[detlef]

For me, this update was eh. I actually think that the new VW tier is a lot of content, especially since we're still far, far (far far far) short of what we want from previous VW tiers.

What's got me kinda bummed out is the relic/mythic/empy upgrades. Empy looks hard but maybe doable to 99. Relic and Mythic look like a complete dead end at 95. I know, I know, we don't know if they will revamp ZNM and nobody has actually confirmed 100% the location of the level 99 relic upgrade item. And we don't know if the test server numbers are final. Also, I'm aware that this affects about 1% of the FFXI population. But that's what's been weighing on my mind lately.

[MAXWINTER]

My main focus is 14 now but back on ff11 a bit and still have not updated the new patch on 14 so will do that tommorow.
Also sound's stupid but one things i now hating about ff11 is exp loss even though i played game for 8 years.
still i thinking of solo the main campaign again once i get to 95 or 99 depending on hard hard this new fight is that everyone going on about atm.

[Runespider]

When Abyssea was the main show in town I would log on and have a million different things I could go and do, logging in now (even after these updates) and I just feel like I used to long ago before Aby was released. Bored and having to ponder long and hard for things to try do ingame, instead of just staring at the moogle spin.

VW fights are fun but the drops are weak and silly rare...and it's just more of the same again this update. The new WS are fun to look at and some are decent but it's kinda hard to put in the effort when you know they are primarily just for show and once the novely wears you won't use em. :/

The last 2 updates have been truely terrible and it's sad to see the state of the game now, I'm getting the old feeling back from just before Aby..when I was more or less forcing myself to stick around. Struggling to fill my playtime with unrewarding events I'd done over and over, enms that took hours to get to, that there was pretty much nothing to do outside of ls events, BCNMs for gil I didn't need, HNM camps for stuff we could never claim..and that would refuse to drop the 1 item the ls peopel needed if we did.

I love FFXI but with such incompetent people in charge I'm not sure how long it has left now, or how long most of us will want to carry on logging in anymore. I can't play old FFXI again, just before Aby it was all about convincing myself and friends to carry on..finding stuff to do instead of just standing around in wg..

One thing I'm sure of, if they ruin this great MMO for me I will never ever touch another online game they put out. Going through what was horrible about FFXI once is one thing, doing it again when they show they have learned nothing would be retarded. I and many other hardcore players complained endlessly about boting and cheating and they did nothing, I don't want to be in a position of being addicted to a game again these people run. They blatantly ignored us before aby and they are doing it again now, that is not a nice position to be in as a player.

[Ilax]

DEV need to keep release content for casual player, and content for hardcore player, both gear should RIVAL to give everyone motivation. They need to stop to spam only one type at once, that make no one happy.

Abyssea was only to please casual player
VW is only to please hardcore player.

They also need to stop ruin the hardcore content by changing the difficulty just to please casual player. Speaking of it, how you guy would like if DEV turn abyssea hardcore, say they remove cruor buff, brew, higher the level and difficulty of every mob/nm? Then call it: Abyssea Reborn!! I swear god all casual player would bitch about it.

It get to the point where everything turn no challenge, and everyone wear the same thing, the only difference really is how one group worked hard to get it, while other group do it super easy and making fun of the hardcore player.