Feedback: Level Break Quest

[Vold]

This thread should die considering that the OP is already lv99 PLD a week later.

[Zarchery]

Just to clarify, the OP is not actually "feedback". Feedback is generally constructive criticism, either negative or positive. The OP is actually closer to "insulting".

[svengalis]

This fight is kinda like the old school rdm maat fight but without the enfire. Yes, rdm matt fight was this hard.

[Kaisha]

The people complaining the fight is hard are obviously not farming the weakening items for it. Just beat it for my 2box mule and it was a laugh and a half, and we weren't using an 'instant win' job set up.

[Zarchery]

They should make an alliance based version of this fight, separate from the level cap BCNM. The alliance based one would have completion of the limit break quest as a prerequisite, be made to be a challenge to an alliance of level 99 players, and of course, have cool and fancy gear drop.

[Meyi]

2 good BLMs and a RDM; 3 debuff items and you can win the fight mana burn style.

Not trying to be an asshole either you just seem a bit discouraged

Even 2 BLMs and 2 tails can easily win.

Edit: Look OP, everyone on here was complaining how all the other genkais were too freaking easy. They were begging Square Enix for a challenge. So Square Enix made a fight that was a little bit difficult to figure out at first. It's really not hard now that it's been figured out -- the only reason it'd still be classified as hard is because you aren't taking the time to review before you go in. Your party isn't taking the time to figure out a strategy before charging in like Leroy Jenkins. Well guess what? You can't win this battle by running in like that.

I've helped several parties now who got mad at me when I tried to set up a strategy. "Let's go, I'm anxious and want to win!" And when I told them I was sick of them being impatient, they got even more butthurt. Knowing that we were going to lose with whatever stupid, small plan they had (we go in and use tail at Hundred Fists and win!!!), I went with them anyway, and then I laughed when we all ate dirt three or four times. Even more disgusting were the people who didn't even bring a single reraise with them. You know, you can grab a reraise scroll from the Conquest guy, use it, grab another, and then head out to the BC. That's guaranteed two reraises.

Even more hilarious, though, after the wipe, were the people complaining. "Oh my God this is waaaay tooo haaard!" Of course it's hard; you didn't use your brain. Use your brain and you can win. Ask what jobs people have. Bring Reraise. Bring food. Know the jobs you're going in with and have enough tails to follow through with the best strategy those jobs can give.

And protip, don't tell people who are already level 99 that you know what you're doing when you're still stuck at 95. kthx

[Runespider]

Most people that complain about this beat it within a few days. I would imagine they will add an easy mode way to beat it with the next update though, for the few straglers that just can't get past it (maybe a clone of maat fight or something)

This fight was actually one of the decent things they added the last year, far better than the stupid level cap quests that came before (80+)

[Luvbunny]

His complaints hits several issues:

- BCNM favors certain jobs xyz: very very true, but normal set up (tank, healer, dd) can win, people either go with zerg strategy,mana burn strategy, or pet strategy. That is at least 4 different ways to win. If you go with casual corners who level their job via aby express and have not yet spend a good 2-4 weeks soloing to find out about what these jobs can do - may want to revisit strategy since this has high chance of fail. This bcnm is not very easy for casual corners players unless they have 4 other people who will take them to win, 6 casual corners = 90% fail.

- OP is having problem finding party below lvl 80s as melee DD. Note to OP: would you please grab the lvl 65s-70s and do pages in Boyahda Tree or Zeruhm Mines? Each page average 3500 xp, with 4-6 people you will get that much in less than 3 mnts. Not to mention you get to reach lvl 250s skill ups or higher. This is NOT difficult concept - either come in with your high demand jobs and key with your low lvl jobs later when there is opportunity. Or try alternatives! Nowadays FFXI does give you aby alternatives - and there are A LOT of NON ABY way to get to 75-80s.

[Alhanelem]

All of which are jobs I don't have and don't want to level.

You're a paladin. You shouldn't have had any problem getting this done. And since you're level 99, you clearly did.

Any party formed with roles covered and people planning a strategy and executing it propely can win this fight just fine. Some jobs make it easier than others, but all 20 jobs can be part of a winning strategy.

This fight is not especially hard. Stop trying to say that it is.

[Rohelius]

On my hume rdm back in the day Maat fight wasn't near as bad as this thing is, now if your elvaan or Galka ouch....

but anyway, I can see how it can be easy to some and hard to complete for others and its not that its a super hard fight its just that the people who go into these things take the easy way out and want a very specific set-up weather its because that what everyone else does or because it became the easier way to do it.

Why would people invite regular DD to divine might back in the day when it was easier to just blm alliance the thing for a sure win? because people are lazy and lack the skills to come up with tactics to play with what they got.