Feedback: Level Break Quest

[RAIST]

I'm a bit confused....the OP was on 12/15, complaining about this fight and having only a 75 MNK...yet , the profile shows 99MNK ??!!

Just did this fight on my gimped 92 MNK....with a ragtag team of misfits. I didn't even really lok at the jobs everyone got on, as I was scrambling to get off DRG and on to MNK and get my CS and tail--think we wound up with PLD, BST, DRK, MNK, MNK, SCH. Most of us had mediocre gear--not even +2 empy armors for most of us. Half off us were 92/93. We took 5 olde rarab tails, walked away with at least two unused. 4 used up a stack of sleep pots for TP via opo neck before we went in. PLD pulled him, we kept tagging him with Chi Blast to nerf TP gain, everone used multi-hit WS as we got TP. PLD held him to about 50%, then he started getting nasty so we started popping the tails in sequence like we used to do for the CoP fights. We'd keep cut him off to beat on him a little till to build TP and the DRK would stun him so we could fire off WS if we had TP. 6:47 was our clear time....kinda took our time and just beat him down. Wasn't any special job combination that got us the win--it was our team working together to get the job done.

We were all surprised (and a bit disappointed) to be honest...all the anxiety over the fight and we just coasted through it. IDK..maybe our group of misfits is more closely knit then we realized......didn't use Vent, and we hardly chatted at all, we just did it.

and what is with waiting 11 hours for a party??!! You could solo/duo a few levels no problem in that time--Campaign alone could net you 15k an hour if you do it right. Granted, there is the issue of skillups...but you can do some of that in besieged (for, again... 15k in an hour). Alternatively, you could hit sky for slower xp and skillups as you go along--I was able to learn Fell Cleave up there on WAR with little effort back when they first introduced skillups on DC's. Once you start soloing in abyssea post 80/85 though, the skills will fly by.

[Evandis]

I'm a bit confused....the OP was on 12/15, complaining about this fight and having only a 75 MNK...yet , the profile shows 99MNK ??!!

Just did this fight on my gimped 92 MNK....with a ragtag team of misfits. I didn't even really lok at the jobs everyone got on, as I was scrambling to get off DRG and on to MNK and get my CS and tail--think we wound up with PLD, BST, DRK, MNK, MNK, SCH. Most of us had mediocre gear--not even +2 empy armors for most of us. Half off us were 92/93. We took 5 olde rarab tails, walked away with at least two unused. 4 used up a stack of sleep pots for TP via opo neck before we went in. PLD pulled him, we kept tagging him with Chi Blast to nerf TP gain, everone used multi-hit WS as we got TP. PLD held him to about 50%, then he started getting nasty so we started popping the tails in sequence like we used to do for the CoP fights. We'd keep cut him off to beat on him a little till to build TP and the DRK would stun him so we could fire off WS if we had TP. 6:47 was our clear time....kinda took our time and just beat him down. Wasn't any special job combination that got us the win--it was our team working together to get the job done.

We were all surprised (and a bit disappointed) to be honest...all the anxiety over the fight and we just coasted through it. IDK..maybe our group of misfits is more closely knit then we realized......didn't use Vent, and we hardly chatted at all, we just did it.

and what is with waiting 11 hours for a party??!! You could solo/duo a few levels no problem in that time--Campaign alone could net you 15k an hour if you do it right. Granted, there is the issue of skillups...but you can do some of that in besieged (for, again... 15k in an hour). Alternatively, you could hit sky for slower xp and skillups as you go along--I was able to learn Fell Cleave up there on WAR with little effort back when they first introduced skillups on DC's. Once you start soloing in abyssea post 80/85 though, the skills will fly by.

Just like my OP stated...battle best suited for specific jobs. Leveled it. Beat taru. Just like SE wanted.

[Doombringer]

just for a bit of perspective.. right now, on carbuncle.. 3769 players online. 1829 are lvl 96 or higher. and it's been 2 days?

people are beating this fight.. a LOT of people.

[Whippet]

How about you stuck Sucking?

I did this fight for me and another time for a friend

PLD MNK WHM WHM THF DNC and PLd had a fucking Koening Shield.

Didn't use any Weakened Item. stop sucking and get to work or change games

[RAIST]

Just like my OP stated...battle best suited for specific jobs. Leveled it. Beat taru. Just like SE wanted.

Then what exactly is the problem? So you had to wait what.... 1 full day, maybe two before you could do the fight? I mean really now....how long did it REALLY take you to get from 75 to 91 so you could go to the fight on MNK? I just spent less than two stones worth of time farting around in abyssea grauberg SOLO for 35k xp off crabs that only gave an extra 2280 per page.

And....did you REALLY not have a group of friends wiling to help you do the fight with a couple of them on jobs with multi-hit WS like MNK, BST, WAR, DRG.....I mean come on....we didn't have any trouble with the fight with only 2 MNK in the party. It didn't seem like it was a major game changer--you're only getting like 50-100 damage per hit (depending on job, gear, food) until you pop the rarerab tail on him. The only thing MNK really adds as a bonus over other jobs in that department is the Chi Blast to inhibit his TP gain (which, btw can also be done with at least ONE other job). I seriously doubt that a team of MNK's is necessary to win the fight. Sure having 2 makes it easier, but it doesn't seem like having one or none is necessarily going to prevent you getting the win....it's just that that has come out as one of the popular strategies for making it an easy win.

Note the key word there.... STRATEGY.

If what you were trying before wasn't working....try something different. Keep trying something different until you find a STRATEGY that works for you. Or... get some friends with the jobs leveled to support an established strategy to help you . If you aren't willing to put forth that kind of effort, then don't come here to whine and moan about you HAVING to level a job you didn't want to level just to beat the level cap. You didn't HAVE to go do that.

You CHOSE to be the lemming....



Edit:
OMG... I just got corrected in LS.... I was the ONLY MNK in the fight....I thought one member had changed, but she was still on her THF. So... our party that went 1/1 was SCH, BST, THF, DRK, MNK, PLD... and no one used their 2-hours.

[Evandis]

It's sad that I have been back 3 weeks and already better than 95% of the people who posted in this thread.

[Whippet]

inc rl card ....

[Doombringer]

It's sad that I have been back 3 weeks and already better than 95% of the people who posted in this thread.

it really is sad... that you think that..



on topic, repeated this fight tonight for a ls member, went in with 4 people controlling 5 characters (as in, 1 mule) and won. no rarab tails, no 2 hours. granted we did have 3 lvl 99's and 1 lvl 98 but.... 5 characters?


5?

[bloodbeat]

I'm not entirely happy on the party-dependent nature of this quest, the damage cap, the drop rate on the items for the enfeebling item.
I can envisage a lot of players will go unassisted in getting their level cap restriction lifted. Especially given the XP loss upon failure and the lack of reward.
I think it's a very near-sighted implementation.

[RAIST]

eh...this game, for the most part, has always been designed around the team-up factor...nothing really new.

This fight is by far better than the maat fight. I failed my first attempt because I didn't set up my macros quite right and my sleep didn't go off. Took me an entire weekend to farm a new testimony. Note that was about 8 hours a day, 3 days in a row. Compare that to roughly 3 hours to farm all the items for one olde rarerab tail, plus one or two items for each of several other members of my group. Had an established plan of action thanks to our time doing CoP back before it got the easy button (and let us not forget the fun it was farming the mats to make those items beforehand), won the fight with minimum effort in just under 7 minutes without blowing everyone's 2 hours. We didn't even use the easy way out with SMN or BLM burn....was basically a conventional party setup we would xp with.

All in all, I'd say it was about on par with Maat in a way. Sure...depending on the job selection it can be a real challenge (ie: BLM or RDM Maat compared to this fight using MNK/SMN burns or a regular Tank/DD's/healer setup) All that it really requires is a group of friends you can depend on to follow a strategy (or a pick up group) just like most any other fight in this game---that's nothing new. If socialising a little or joining random groups (or <gasp> making your own group) is not your cup of tea....than IDK, maybe this style of game just isn't really suited for you?