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  1. #11
    Player dragoon_apprentice's Avatar
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    Mugin
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    yes 4 blm 1 whm and another job using 1 tail will most likely work. i might suggest though that if you have one, instead of sam bring blm or another nuking job like rdm, or cor to buff the blms with magic attack bonus, or bring rng or something if you can. when he is runnign in circles, you are gonna have a hell of a time trying to land any ws on him unless u stand in one spot and time it perfectly. ull get more dmg out of nuking , ranged, or buffing the blms imo
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  2. #12
    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Seems like you have to go with certain jobs xyz - or go bust [..]
    The OP alone mentions 6 jobs. I've heard people beat it with pretty much everything. I don't know any job that hasn't been used for this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    [..] now you wonder where all these so called "hardcore" players who wants hard mode when you need them.
    They're 99, along with most people currently online on my server, what does that tell you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    You wonder if they would go with ANY normal set up (tank + DDs + healers) and be able to kill it regardless without needing jobs xyz. As it is now - all shouts ask for monk, beast, summoners, whm and paladins.
    That's already more jobs than your beloved Abyssea ever needed. Also, the ones who shout are the ones who have to deal with random players, and if you do that you want to increase your chances as much as possible. Why shout for something that has less chance of being useful than something else? If you want to play one certain job, you can, because it's been done before. Just team up with people you know. Although it wouldn't surprise me if you didn't have any friends, because of how unlikeable you are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    It's funny that enfeebling have no effect on this mob (cough cough, RDM screwed once more, again) [..]
    An outright lie. It can be both bound and paralyzed (even the OP mentions bind).

    You're one of those people who just like to bitch for bitching's sake. And that's cool with me, who am I to judge, but at least try to not sound like a moron when you do it.
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  3. #13
    Player xhaolyne's Avatar
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    Xhaolyne
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    Sylph
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    SAM Lv 95
    yes 4 blm 1 whm and another job using 1 tail will most likely work. i might suggest though that if you have one, instead of sam bring blm or another nuking job like rdm, or cor to buff the blms with magic attack bonus, or bring rng or something if you can. when he is runnign in circles, you are gonna have a hell of a time trying to land any ws on him unless u stand in one spot and time it perfectly. ull get more dmg out of nuking , ranged, or buffing the blms imo
    Yeah, I have to pick SAM or NIN those are my 95 jobs. So pretty much I'm useless on all tails fight lol.
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  4. #14
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    Use Penta Thrust or Blade: Ku/Jin. Not hard. At all.

    If you don't have PLM for your SAM, ki- I mean level it.
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  5. #15
    Player bryangelos's Avatar
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    Bryangelos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Seems like you have to go with certain jobs xyz - or go bust - now you wonder where all these so called "hardcore" players who wants hard mode when you need them. You wonder if they would go with ANY normal set up (tank + DDs + healers) and be able to kill it regardless without needing jobs xyz. As it is now - all shouts ask for monk, beast, summoners, whm and paladins. Either monk zerg, pet zerg, or a combination of two with paladin - otherwise get lost, farm more, try try try again. It's funny that enfeebling have no effect on this mob (cough cough, RDM screwed once more, again) and yes he likes to one shot everyone and have additional effect damage that pretty much kill everyone that gets hate.
    I don't know what your idea of a normal setups is: you say tank + DDs + Healers. I was able to do it with me nin dualboxing a whm, ochain pld dualboxing a whm, a whm, a thf all level 95 and no tail.

    Also for fun i tried it again once i was level 99 to help out a friend, he was thf dualboxing a whm, i was nin dualboxing a whm. I was able to tank it to 75% before i died when i was trying to swich to mule to cure myself in time. With friends at 99 i really think this fight will be easy. Also i had just hit 99 so skill were uncaped. If a nin is trying to do this fight a nice pdt setup and haste to keep miga up helps a tun, when i died it was a 1077 something ws he never 1 shoted me.
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    Last edited by bryangelos; 12-17-2011 at 01:20 PM.

  6. #16
    Player Luvbunny's Avatar
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    This battle is not a cakewalk - at least not for everyday players in general. You do need certain set ups to win - but even then it is not guaranteed since you actually need semi competent players who actually have good skills (weapon, magic, and some understanding of the jobs/roles). Preparation is a must, phalanx, stoneskinga, enfire, any and all kind of buffs from smn/bard/scholar. If you are beast zerg, bring dawn muslum (4-6), and everyone else pretty much need to use food, and bring emergency mp recovery items for mages. If you are bringing summoner for PD make sure that summoner has summon magic capped or you will fail. All the monks in your party also need to have hand to hand over 320s. It's easy battle if you manage to grab a bunch of lvl 99 to help who already have good weapon/magic skills - otherwise have a high chance of failure. And yes - tons of mercernary advertising 100-500k spot to get this done.

    I went with 2 different groups. First group: 3 mnks, smn, 1 blm, 1 sch. Buffs before including stoneskinga, blinkga, enfire, firestorm, fenrir stats buff, phalanxga, regen 4-ga. Then summoner 2 hours for perfect defense, scholar 2 hours with embrava (10 mnts duration), sent the 3 mnks to hundred fist. Kaustra and helix spells do 90s damage each so dont bet on kaustra. Mnks use Asuran Fist over and over due to tp gain from embrava. Otherwise rather super easy due to summoner's high lvl summon skill - perfect defense manage to mitigate big damage and embrava + regen 4 pretty much make the melees never run out of hp.

    Here is the big difference in the second group. 4 mnks, 1 whm, 1 smn = which should translate easy win on paper. Biggest difference is this summoner has very low magic skills and the whm is a bit rusty. Enfire is low damage due to low magic, perfect defense is not so perfect, and whm pretty much too slow to accession + stoneskin + regen 4 ga. Wiped. We come back and changed our set up with normal party, Pld, Sch, Beast, Beast, Summoner. After buffs and scholar 2 hours things go smooth until Pld got killed (seems he is also a bit rusty), he managed to kill pretty much everyone except the scholar who is able to kite, regen, stoneskin, and keep casting helix - embrava + regen 4 is huge help. We timed out because we were not able to deal enough damage. I went one more time with 3 mnks (random pick up), 2 smn, 1 beast. The one summoner has max skills - battle went rather easy till the second smn with weak summon magic pretty much screwed up his perfect defense turn, the taru start killing everyone but we finally able to kill it because the good summoner has the common sense on how to turn the tide.

    The rarab tails is very good if you plan to mana burn this. What it does is lower his defense. He has 100 hit cap unless you can multi hit and have enfire with max enhancing which push the damage. The rarab tails will let you overcome this barrier and do massive damage. Normal damage from asuran fist and raging fist should be around 350-1000. More if you use the rarab tails.

    Bottom line = jobs xyz matters, BUT the skills of the players and their knowledge of their actual jobs will make or break your battle.
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    Last edited by Luvbunny; 12-17-2011 at 07:05 PM.

  7. #17
    Player bryangelos's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    This battle is not a cakewalk - at least not for everyday players in general. You do need certain set ups to win - but even then it is not guaranteed since you actually need semi competent players who actually have good skills (weapon, magic, and some understanding of the jobs/roles). Preparation is a must, phalanx, stoneskinga, enfire, any and all kind of buffs from smn/bard/scholar. If you are beast zerg, bring dawn muslum (4-6), and everyone else pretty much need to use food, and bring emergency mp recovery items for mages. If you are bringing summoner for PD make sure that summoner has summon magic capped or you will fail. All the monks in your party also need to have hand to hand over 320s. It's easy battle if you manage to grab a bunch of lvl 99 to help who already have good weapon/magic skills - otherwise have a high chance of failure. And yes - tons of mercernary advertising 100-500k spot to get this done.

    I went with 2 different groups. First group: 3 mnks, smn, 1 blm, 1 sch. Buffs before including stoneskinga, blinkga, enfire, firestorm, fenrir stats buff, phalanxga, regen 4-ga. Then summoner 2 hours for perfect defense, scholar 2 hours with embrava (10 mnts duration), sent the 3 mnks to hundred fist. Kaustra and helix spells do 90s damage each so dont bet on kaustra. Mnks use Asuran Fist over and over due to tp gain from embrava. Otherwise rather super easy due to summoner's high lvl summon skill - perfect defense manage to mitigate big damage and embrava + regen 4 pretty much make the melees never run out of hp.

    Here is the big difference in the second group. 4 mnks, 1 whm, 1 smn = which should translate easy win on paper. Biggest difference is this summoner has very low magic skills and the whm is a bit rusty. Enfire is low damage due to low magic, perfect defense is not so perfect, and whm pretty much too slow to accession + stoneskin + regen 4 ga. Wiped. We come back and changed our set up with normal party, Pld, Sch, Beast, Beast, Summoner. After buffs and scholar 2 hours things go smooth until Pld got killed (seems he is also a bit rusty), he managed to kill pretty much everyone except the scholar who is able to kite, regen, stoneskin, and keep casting helix - embrava + regen 4 is huge help. We timed out because we were not able to deal enough damage. I went one more time with 3 mnks (random pick up), 2 smn, 1 beast. The one summoner has max skills - battle went rather easy till the second smn with weak summon magic pretty much screwed up his perfect defense turn, the taru start killing everyone but we finally able to kill it because the good summoner has the common sense on how to turn the tide.

    The rarab tails is very good if you plan to mana burn this. What it does is lower his defense. He has 100 hit cap unless you can multi hit and have enfire with max enhancing which push the damage. The rarab tails will let you overcome this barrier and do massive damage. Normal damage from asuran fist and raging fist should be around 350-1000. More if you use the rarab tails.

    Bottom line = jobs xyz matters, BUT the skills of the players and their knowledge of their actual jobs will make or break your battle.
    So it seems you nailed it, and the battle is working as intended. I agree with a party of people who have not leveled and skilled jobs it is tough, but that is the point. The battle is not abyssea burned no skills and no geared jobs friendly. That being said i think it did its job right, if you could go in with gimp jobs no tank and just beat it easily it would serve no purpose. If you are playing ff11 and you refuse to skill up your job and spend the time getting good gear and learning to play at least 1 job, then YES this game will be tough for you and maybe you should think about playing another game.
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  8. #18
    Player Ilax's Avatar
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    Ilax
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    Fenrir
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    THF Lv 99
    PLD(me), healer, 4 any DD, i won this fight 12 time, with 12 random setup, i was bored and offered my help. Of course i have ochain, what pld would worth without it, sadly not much, don't be hating, is DEV that make it that way, not me.

    My strategy was plain easy, DD do they stuff without taking hate, on NM 2h [every time @ 35%..] i equip W.leg and run away, so i don't get owned in 5 sec with his enfire, when his 2h wasted, all DD go back, i hit sentinel, flash, etc and DD go crazy for final zerg.

    i win with pld, whm, smn, smn, thf, thf... The only difference when i had stronger DD, is how i had to tell them to back up and stop DD, because yes, a DEAD DRK/SAM deal less dmg then a THF that stay alive entire fight.
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  9. #19
    Player RAIST's Avatar
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    our party that went 1/1 was SCH, BST, THF, DRK, MNK, PLD...half were only 91-93, and we didn't use 2-hours. Didn't really seem like we did anything special to be honest. It felt more like one of our normal event fights.

    1 stack of sleep pots passed around so 4 had TP before going in. Didn't even pay attention to what the SCH/RDM buffed us with to be honest, but he's a really good SCH, so probly had us buffed up to our eyeballs. PLD pulled, MNK chi blasted to nerf TP gain. Once PLD had hate seated, we charged in to WS spam (the key here is to use multi-hit WS) and he quickly came down to 50%. When he got pissy, we chucked the tails in order just like the old CoP crag fights. Cut him off so we could smack him around a bit to get TP while he was terrorized. DRK would stun him so we could unload the WS on him. 2 or three tails used, a second Chi blast was fired while he was running around.... 6:47 win. Some people bought potions and I. wings and never even used them...was actually a little disappointing after all the hype.
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  10. #20
    Player Thanotos's Avatar
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    Thanotous
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    Bahamut
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    DRK Lv 99
    not sure if anyone has mentioned this or used this before, but i when i went in drk/sam my third eye was eating all his ws, which i was amazed when it blocked asuran fists, some type of dd/sam strat is viable, but i could be wrong, i used bstx5 and smn to win. also endark was doing 50-60 additional dmg on my hits, using BZ i was dealing some nice dmg, didnt get a chance to try souleater on it but i am assuming it doesnt work cause SE hates drk.
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