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    Player dragoon_apprentice's Avatar
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    Mugin
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    Ragnarok
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    PUP Lv 93

    lvl 99 limit break ways to win

    i won using blm blm blm blm blu whm

    everyone /rdm
    used 1 tail
    blms used manafont
    blu hits diffusion at the start, then amplification or memnto mori the blms
    then blms and blu go crazy nuking it, he takes normal damage during the tail (a magic zerg)
    might want to bring a backup tail

    i used amplification, but in hindsight since it only took 1 tail, memento mori is a better choice b/c its more magic attack bonus. also as blu set magic that has range on it and power

    this NM can be bound fyi

    other strats i heard about :
    bring a whm, and a smn (with alexander) 3-4 mnks
    smn pops PD on a few mnks that hundred fist, and there is room for a ninja or some other job for someone that doesnt have whm smn or mnk
    dont need a tail for this

    i have also heard about parties winning with:
    5 dnc and 1 whm, using fan dance
    an ochain pld in the party, i think with smn alexander too
    3 paladins in the party ( i dont remeber exact pt setups for pld pts, whm, prolyl smn w/ alexander too)

    i think a pure smn party can beat it , using predator claws from garuda, or 5 smn and whm maybe, everyone /rdm
    and/or a bst in pt using dipper can beat it
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    Last edited by dragoon_apprentice; 12-17-2011 at 12:13 AM.

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    Player Clou777's Avatar
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    Character
    Cloudius
    World
    Asura
    Main Class
    SMN Lv 99
    easy way, 4 MNK, 1 WHM, 1 SMN (Alexander PD).

    PD at start, mnks run in and Hundred Fists, when Taru starts WS spamming, WHM keep MNKs healed, should take about 3-4 mins for win.
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    Player geekgirl101's Avatar
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    Character
    Hunibubu
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    WHM Lv 99
    We tried BLM/SCH, BLM/RDM, BLM/RDM, WHM/SCH, RDM/BLM, PLD/WAR. PLD was useless, there was times he got aggro back but most the time the BLMs were killed because big nukes >> provoke. Chainspell stun was helpful during the 2hr though, but then I died once chainspell wore off when he asuran fisted me in one go (really SE? one hit kill for an LB fight? get real!) The tank died very quickly after all the BLMs had died once and resurrected, then the WHM went down followed by the weakened BLMs. It would've worked better had the PLD been another BLM and we had another tail or two. It was very close, we got him very low but it just wasn't good enough.
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    Player Dfoley's Avatar
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    Raijitsu
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    Ragnarok
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    PUP Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    We tried BLM/SCH, BLM/RDM, BLM/RDM, WHM/SCH, RDM/BLM, PLD/WAR. PLD was useless, there was times he got aggro back but most the time the BLMs were killed because big nukes >> provoke. Chainspell stun was helpful during the 2hr though, but then I died once chainspell wore off when he asuran fisted me in one go (really SE? one hit kill for an LB fight? get real!) The tank died very quickly after all the BLMs had died once and resurrected, then the WHM went down followed by the weakened BLMs. It would've worked better had the PLD been another BLM and we had another tail or two. It was very close, we got him very low but it just wasn't good enough.
    Your story has a problem. There are no big nukes unless you use a raraab tail. Everything caps at 100ish dmg without it. I am not saying they didnt get agro, but it sure wasnt from big nukes.

    If you were using a tail (which you kinda of hint at in the end) why did you even bother with a paladin, and rather how did anyone agro while he is running in a circle? Do you mean after the tail wore off and he still wasnt dead? 1 Tail +3-4 mages is enough to do 70% of its dmg. With that setup you have to turtle tank it to 55-60 then pop a tail and let blm finish it. You would be better off just tailing from the start and opening with everyones 2hr. Monk 2 hring + 3 blm should kill it. Add in a rdm for chain spell stun so it doesnt run from the monk and you win.
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    Last edited by Dfoley; 12-21-2011 at 01:13 AM.

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    Player Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Luvbunny
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    Bahamut
    Main Class
    SMN Lv 99
    Seems like you have to go with certain jobs xyz - or go bust - now you wonder where all these so called "hardcore" players who wants hard mode when you need them. You wonder if they would go with ANY normal set up (tank + DDs + healers) and be able to kill it regardless without needing jobs xyz. As it is now - all shouts ask for monk, beast, summoners, whm and paladins. Either monk zerg, pet zerg, or a combination of two with paladin - otherwise get lost, farm more, try try try again. It's funny that enfeebling have no effect on this mob (cough cough, RDM screwed once more, again) and yes he likes to one shot everyone and have additional effect damage that pretty much kill everyone that gets hate.
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Arcon
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    PLD Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Seems like you have to go with certain jobs xyz - or go bust [..]
    The OP alone mentions 6 jobs. I've heard people beat it with pretty much everything. I don't know any job that hasn't been used for this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    [..] now you wonder where all these so called "hardcore" players who wants hard mode when you need them.
    They're 99, along with most people currently online on my server, what does that tell you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    You wonder if they would go with ANY normal set up (tank + DDs + healers) and be able to kill it regardless without needing jobs xyz. As it is now - all shouts ask for monk, beast, summoners, whm and paladins.
    That's already more jobs than your beloved Abyssea ever needed. Also, the ones who shout are the ones who have to deal with random players, and if you do that you want to increase your chances as much as possible. Why shout for something that has less chance of being useful than something else? If you want to play one certain job, you can, because it's been done before. Just team up with people you know. Although it wouldn't surprise me if you didn't have any friends, because of how unlikeable you are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    It's funny that enfeebling have no effect on this mob (cough cough, RDM screwed once more, again) [..]
    An outright lie. It can be both bound and paralyzed (even the OP mentions bind).

    You're one of those people who just like to bitch for bitching's sake. And that's cool with me, who am I to judge, but at least try to not sound like a moron when you do it.
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    Player bryangelos's Avatar
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    Bryangelos
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    Asura
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    PLD Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Seems like you have to go with certain jobs xyz - or go bust - now you wonder where all these so called "hardcore" players who wants hard mode when you need them. You wonder if they would go with ANY normal set up (tank + DDs + healers) and be able to kill it regardless without needing jobs xyz. As it is now - all shouts ask for monk, beast, summoners, whm and paladins. Either monk zerg, pet zerg, or a combination of two with paladin - otherwise get lost, farm more, try try try again. It's funny that enfeebling have no effect on this mob (cough cough, RDM screwed once more, again) and yes he likes to one shot everyone and have additional effect damage that pretty much kill everyone that gets hate.
    I don't know what your idea of a normal setups is: you say tank + DDs + Healers. I was able to do it with me nin dualboxing a whm, ochain pld dualboxing a whm, a whm, a thf all level 95 and no tail.

    Also for fun i tried it again once i was level 99 to help out a friend, he was thf dualboxing a whm, i was nin dualboxing a whm. I was able to tank it to 75% before i died when i was trying to swich to mule to cure myself in time. With friends at 99 i really think this fight will be easy. Also i had just hit 99 so skill were uncaped. If a nin is trying to do this fight a nice pdt setup and haste to keep miga up helps a tun, when i died it was a 1077 something ws he never 1 shoted me.
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    Last edited by bryangelos; 12-17-2011 at 01:20 PM.

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    Player geekgirl101's Avatar
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    Hunibubu
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    Phoenix
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    WHM Lv 99
    Actually I had no issues in landing enfeebling spells on him, although gravity was resisted. I don't think the enfeebles did anything though, I think at one point he was paralyzed but most the time he just seemed to create TP out of thin air (that could be from chainspell stuns and nukes from the BLMs) so we were being TP'd to death, and TP moves aren't affected by enfeebles like paralyze.
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    Player Riggs's Avatar
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    Character
    Zoop
    World
    Carbuncle
    Main Class
    BLM Lv 99
    its a really hard fight but it is winable with a traditional set up. I got through this morning without any ki's with the following set up
    Pld, mnk, thf, sch, whm, brd

    Meele will die when you get hate so reraise items are necessary. Pld is a must for any normal party set up.

    I guess they could have made it worse like cure him with meele while he ws or crap like that
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    Player Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Luvbunny
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    Bahamut
    Main Class
    SMN Lv 99
    It's pretty much this - if you have over 4 people in the party that are "casual corners" - yes they may have the jobs but not exactly "excel" in those jobs or have the gears - then you are doomed to fail without having 4 "tails". The BCNM is designed to win with certain jobs combination - normal set up seems to have hard time with the taru one shot everyone in his hate list - shadows do nothing and pretty much all ninjas are screwed in this BCNM. It's funny how unless you have xyz jobs - you are going to have a hard time winning.
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