SE really?! really 99 cap boss this hard?!?!

[Neisan_Quetz]

Er what, Hundred fists sets you to the delay cap.

Although I guess not benefitting from outside haste is a detriment if you don't realize that.

In our case, we just SV'd minueted the mnks and the sole dualwielder (me) got marches.

[RAIST]

think he's talking about the DoT factor I guess....punching away at base delay versus gearing for TP gain and spamming weaponskills.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Well yea, you'd actually need to make a new set for HF being up, but I doubt I've seen many mnks actually do that.

EDIT: I actually went back to confirm, and it seems HF does set you to the delay cap, the old figure of ~75% haste or w/e was because martial arts wasn't being factored (it's straight delay reduction). Mnk didn't seem to get another tier post 82, so it doesn't seem to completely hurt them without Dnc in pt at minimum (potentially SV too actually) if they aren't using anymore MA gear. There is some fractional difference between the 2 going by cream/failure's testing.

[Morier]

Hurr durr, posted in public. I felt your comment warranted some kind of reply. You can't seriously expect every single player to be part of a massive linkshell? Or know one person who plays every job who will ditch everything to help their old friends out? This attitude of you suck, get better isn't going to deal with the long term problem with this cap. WHICH IS WHAT IM TRYING TO BRING TO DISCUSSION IN THIS THREAD.

Again Tav you show you have no sense of reading comprehension. The entire point of my post and reply to him, was that YOU DO NOT NEED a big ls or super great fun time friends. Once again learn to read please.

[Meyi]

We just won with: WHM SAM MNK BLM BLM BST

We used two tails right from the start, and blms nuked. Fight took 3 minutes, 22 seconds.

Damage I dealt as BLM99/RDM49 was:
Blizzaja 1778
Blizzard V 1628
Thunder V 1661
Firaja 1616
Blizzard IV 1072
Aeroja 1540

Recycle spells. Went incredibly smooth, so if you can find 2 BLMs with their 2hrs, and can get 2 tails, I'd highly recommend this route.

Good luck!

[Reiterpallasch]

Well yea, you'd actually need to make a new set for HF being up, but I doubt I've seen many mnks actually do that.

EDIT: I actually went back to confirm, and it seems HF does set you to the delay cap, the old figure of ~75% haste or w/e was because martial arts wasn't being factored (it's straight delay reduction). Mnk didn't seem to get another tier post 82, so it doesn't seem to completely hurt them without Dnc in pt at minimum (potentially SV too actually) if they aren't using anymore MA gear. There is some fractional difference between the 2 going by cream/failure's testing.

Good to know. I had always heard that it set you to 74% or some such and that if you could break that with buffs, you were better off not using your 2hr at all.

[Khajit]

I never said the damage limit from the tail was a bad idea, i said making him run away was dumb.

To get around that have a rdm(maybe two if your group is into that) use chainspell stun. Or a blu spam stun spells. possible both with the rdm chainstun saved for the end.

[Dragoy]

There's a simple solution to your problem. Start the party yourself. If people in the party bring weakness items, you can win with any sensible job combination. Even without them, if the team plays well, it's a perfectly winnable fight.

I can't seem to find how to create another Tail once you have won. I have just assumed that it is not a repeatable thing. Does anyone know for sure?

Indeed it seems like it is not possible to get them after finishing the quest.

Whether or not this is intended, would be nice to have confirmed.


The items for it can be quite rare.
Specifically the Bone was very elusive to me, more so with TH ironically than without, lol. Tried the Puks for a time, and then hours of killing the tigers at Kuftal. I do hope I will not need more of them, lol. >.<

[svengalis]

Dunno why everyone is crazy about having MNKs to hundred fists with. Most people should know by now that it actually gimps your damage if you're doing it right :/

Any particular reason you don't just go THF? Fast attacking 1handers are great. Can't find anyone going with that setup? Make your own.

Monk's 2hour + enfire from Summoners equals dead boss in under 3 minutes. I think we spent more time buffing then killing the Taru.

[svengalis]

Does anyone know of any groups that are actually willing to take jobs along to the fight other than BST MNK or SMN or a handful of mages? Because this is actually starting to take the piss.

If you can find a PLD who has Aegis( relic) sheild you could go in with any setup you want just make sure you have heals.