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  1. #231
    Player Evandis's Avatar
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    Evandis
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    Ragnarok
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    PLD Lv 99
    I will be helping everyone I can, and happen to be on Ragnarok.
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  2. #232
    Player detlef's Avatar
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    Philemon
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    Valefor
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    BRD Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Evandis View Post
    Actually, it's more shocking that some of you are married, since you have no compassion for your fellow man and just accuse them all of sucking, because they haven't beaten this fight.

    This BCNM is BS for a limit break quest, and it's a crap shoot, unless you have 1 of 4 jobs out of the 20 total. Period.

    Oh...and I am saying this even after I have beaten it.
    I've helped many people in my linkshell through the fight. I've had way too many bad experiences with shout groups to volunteer, so that's where my compassion ends. The best I can do is keep posting in this thread every time I beat it with a different setup.

    Seriously though, I've never seen the rarab tail's effect wear off so I have no idea what it's like.
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  3. #233
    Player ApocalypseNow's Avatar
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    Williamwagner
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    Bahamut
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    BLM Lv 99
    24 pages of post, I'm sure someone mentioned this but incase someone didn't. A BST SOLOED THAT FIGHT! He used 60 Dark Mulsums. I went 1/1 in that fight. 3bst 3whm, all bst had 15 Dark Mulsums before we went in. I used 13, but i think my pet had hate half the fight. One of the whm was a guys mule we let come cause someone that joined our party originally didn't have the quest done.
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    Last edited by ApocalypseNow; 12-17-2011 at 10:39 AM.

  4. #234
    Player Koroma's Avatar
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    Koroma
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    Bismarck
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    BLU Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseNow View Post
    24 pages of post, I'm sure someone mentioned this but incase someone didn't. A BST SOLOED THAT FIGHT! He used 60 Dark Mulsums. I went 1/1 in that fight. 3bst 3whm, all bst had 15 Dark Mulsums before we went in. I used 13, but i think my pet had hate half the fight. One of the whm was a guys mule we let come cause someone that joined our party originally didn't have the quest done.
    bst soloed it on the test server with epic-ness in 14+ mins so se reduced the time to 10 mins >.>
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  5. #235
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Tahngarthor
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    Shiva
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    SMN Lv 99
    12 pages (i have 20 posts per page set) of whining? really? come on, this fight isn't THAT hard. It's not "easy," but what the hell is wrong with a good old fashioned challenge? If you think and consider all the abilities and spells of everyone in your party, you can find a way to deal with what the NM does. Then there's the rarab tails.

    Consider taking advantage of things like Sentinel's Scherzo and Titan's Earthen Armor. Both of these can help avoid you getting destroyed by one or two weaponskills. at 100 fists, invincible, and use a rarab tail when it wears. There are ways to deal with everything he does.

    If you lose, get back up, grow some balls, and get back in the fight and win. Anyone who is biatching about this fight has clearly never fought Maat as RDM when the cap first hit 75.
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  6. #236
    Player wildsprite's Avatar
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    Kitanashia
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    Cerberus
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    SMN Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    12 pages (i have 20 posts per page set) of whining? really? come on, this fight isn't THAT hard. It's not "easy," but what the hell is wrong with a good old fashioned challenge? If you think and consider all the abilities and spells of everyone in your party, you can find a way to deal with what the NM does. Then there's the rarab tails.

    Consider taking advantage of things like Sentinel's Scherzo and Titan's Earthen Armor. Both of these can help avoid you getting destroyed by one or two weaponskills. at 100 fists, invincible, and use a rarab tail when it wears. There are ways to deal with everything he does.

    If you lose, get back up, grow some balls, and get back in the fight and win. Anyone who is biatching about this fight has clearly never fought Maat as RDM when the cap first hit 75.
    ~gets on soapbox~
    if this is your idea of a challenge then your standards are pretty low, all you have with this is an overpowered, under thought up boss, I wanted a challenge, this is not a challenge, nor is it epic like some people seem to think, as for it being easy, if that were the case then it would be solo able with difficulty, but thus far I have not heard of anyone soloing it in the 10 minute time limit

    thanks SE, truly, this fight is almost as much of a joke as the LBs after Maat were, it isn't fun, its not really a challenge, the challenge is finding the right help for it, please reconsider giving us a solo fight that is actually a real challenge

    ~gets off soapbox~
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    Try to have fun or it isn't worth playing

  7. #237
    Player Zeo's Avatar
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    Zeocat
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    Sylph
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    BLU Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    12 pages (i have 20 posts per page set) of whining? really? come on, this fight isn't THAT hard. It's not "easy," but what the hell is wrong with a good old fashioned challenge? If you think and consider all the abilities and spells of everyone in your party, you can find a way to deal with what the NM does. Then there's the rarab tails.

    Consider taking advantage of things like Sentinel's Scherzo and Titan's Earthen Armor. Both of these can help avoid you getting destroyed by one or two weaponskills. at 100 fists, invincible, and use a rarab tail when it wears. There are ways to deal with everything he does.

    If you lose, get back up, grow some balls, and get back in the fight and win. Anyone who is biatching about this fight has clearly never fought Maat as RDM when the cap first hit 75.
    We live in the microwave age of instant gratification. Of course people are going to wince at the slightest inkling of a challenge.

    1/3 on this personally but to be fair one of our guys was 3-boxing.
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    Zeocat ~ Sylph

  8. #238
    Player Greatguardian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildsprite View Post
    ~gets on soapbox~
    if this is your idea of a challenge then your standards are pretty low, all you have with this is an overpowered, under thought up boss, I wanted a challenge, this is not a challenge, nor is it epic like some people seem to think, as for it being easy, if that were the case then it would be solo able with difficulty, but thus far I have not heard of anyone soloing it in the 10 minute time limit

    thanks SE, truly, this fight is almost as much of a joke as the LBs after Maat were, it isn't fun, its not really a challenge, the challenge is finding the right help for it, please reconsider giving us a solo fight that is actually a real challenge

    ~gets off soapbox~
    It's not a challenge.

    It's just not "Hey give me 5 kindred crests and play janken with me prz".

    It's a nice medium. Of course people are going to lose once or twice. FFXI has never, ever, eveeeeerrrrr in a million years been a solo friendly game. Not even for a second. Sorry. You are not judged solely on your worth alone, but on the worth of the peers around you. If you are a gem among coal, you will turn black, ashen, and dull.

    Truly great players inspire those around them to greatness. Don't blame the weak link for "making you lose", as others in this thread have tried to do. Instead, make that link stronger.

    For all the self-absorbed victims in this thread, I see very few people actually communicating with other posters on their server and teaming up for this.
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    I will have my revenge!

  9. #239
    Player Kincard's Avatar
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    Kincard
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    Leviathan
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    NIN Lv 99
    Straw men, straw men, everywhere!

    I'll just simplify my point thusly: There's lots and lots of group-related battles all over the damn game, ranging from laughably easy to challenging. I was really hoping they'd give us one last hurrah for the finish line for 99, but they pretty much phone it in with a pretty uninspired BF.

    Oh well.
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  10. #240
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Tahngarthor
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    Shiva
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    SMN Lv 99
    if this is your idea of a challenge then your standards are pretty low
    It's not, but I'm being generous to the people that are having a hard time.

    I failed my first try, only because the "tank" ran in and instantly got raped by some weaponskill the taru did before I could give him the buff that would help avoid something like that happening. The second time we won easily, when people were patient enough to allow us to prepare properly.

    It is a challenge to the extent that for the average person, it is more difficult than whatever the average person was probably used to- but not by a whole lot. If people just buckle down and actually cooperate, then it's no problem.

    I don't know why you and certain other people equate "challenge" and "hardest thing ever", though. This is far from the easiest BC fight in the game. By no means "hard," but if it's hard enough to stop stupid people, then it has a very slight bit of difficulty to it.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 12-17-2011 at 12:47 PM.

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