SE really?! really 99 cap boss this hard?!?!

[Evandis]

You have pld nin, and thf, all great jobs for this fight, and you do not need great gear, i had a thf using dual eva daggers and some generic half decent gear, mostly +1 af3

And ur argument that u need to level a certain job is wrong, simply wrong

No, my argument is not wrong, because if you don't have an Aegis/O-Chain PLD, or a Alexander SMN or a BST, or a MNK, then no one is interested in you. Wish I could take a screenshot of the shouts. Let me quote them.

"Ochain/Aegis {Paladin} {Do you have it?} {Limit Breaker} @5 {/tell}."

"{Limit Breaker} @5 {Monk} {Can I have it?}"

Etc. etc. etc.

I wonder why shouts like that exist? Oh...maybe because more people fail than succeed at the average standard setup? Just like stereotypes, they are rooted in truth.

[Dragoy]

From what, the BLM or the /DRK peoples? If you have access to "stun" then you just nuke it anyway.

The real point is that your WS will miss due to how server - client lag works. The monster is never where you see it, it's always one to three steps ahead and thus the client's targeting system will always be out of range when the monster is moving.

It is actually possible at least normally to hit a target moving away from you, even with a WS, if you take the correct amount of steps past the target, as in picturing it going farther than it is. A few steps usually does it.

That said, I still haven't actually seen how he moves exactly at that time, though, so if it's incredibly erratic, it would certainly make it difficult, more so than it needs to be.


And by the by, does this thread really need to continue to become just about "who or what can do it and who can not"? ^^;

[Lotto]

Repeat after me, any job will work in this fight if you have the LS to get you the most top notch gear, or you happen to get lucky enough to have a maxed out PLD tanking...or if you are a MNK/BST/SMN.

It's a limit break quest. It let's level up to 99, not gives you an enhancement to all your weapons that make them occassionally hit 2 to 8 times.

You probably missed the CoP era, nobody complained when you had to come SMN or RNG to win a promyvion. And as you said, at this time clearing promies would not give you an "enhancement to all your weapons".

Back on topic, cleared the BC with MNKx2, DRK, DNC, WHM, SMN. One of the MNK got killed by a weapon skill at the beginning of the fight. SMN used perfect defense ant still managed to defeat him easily.
The only thing I regret about the BC is that the "final boss" is just a taru, where are the Promathia, Kam'lanaut or those charismatic bosses? ; ;

[Finuve]

Build ur own party then, ffs just because ppl shout for things that make it easier doesnt mean its impossible without, i beat every CoP mission prenerf on drk, DRK, a job that sucked for just about nething that wasnt diabolos

How? I built the parties and came up with the strategy myself, what did i do for this lb? The same damn thing

So besides sucking less, u also need to be less lazy

[detlef]

Just beat it again, BLM BLM BLM BLM BST SMN.

[Lotto]

No, my argument is not wrong, because if you don't have an Aegis/O-Chain PLD, or a Alexander SMN or a BST, or a MNK, then no one is interested in you. Wish I could take a screenshot of the shouts. Let me quote them.

"Ochain/Aegis {Paladin} {Do you have it?} {Limit Breaker} @5 {/tell}."

"{Limit Breaker} @5 {Monk} {Can I have it?}"

Etc. etc. etc.

I wonder why shouts like that exist? Oh...maybe because more people fail than succeed at the average standard setup? Just like stereotypes, they are rooted in truth.

I don't get it, if you don't like the shouts you see, why don't you make your own?

[Evandis]

You probably missed the CoP era, nobody complained when you had to come SMN or RNG to win a promyvion. And as you said, at this time clearing promies would not give you an "enhancement to all your weapons".

Back on topic, cleared the BC with MNKx2, DRK, DNC, WHM, SMN. One of the MNK got killed by a weapon skill at the beginning of the fight. SMN used perfect defense ant still managed to defeat him easily.
The only thing I regret about the BC is that the "final boss" is just a taru, where are the Promathia, Kam'lanaut or those charismatic bosses? ; ;

I have been playing since N/A release...and quit in October 2009, the only era I missed was the dumbing down of this game via Abyssea experience points. Leveling a job to 30 and leveling one to 95 are not relateable.

[Evandis]

I don't get it, if you don't like the shouts you see, why don't you make your own?

I have made my own. I am 0/10. The best we did was when I came PLD and Terra Staffed it, even though everyone insulted me for this concept...it's the furthest we ever got it down.

[Dreamin]

Those shouts exists because most of those people lack insight and they're nothing but copy cats, they read somewhere such and such strategies works and they think just because of the same exact jobs will make an automatic win. Imagine if in a party with an OChain PLD but no DD with skills cap. They could still potentially run into time out issues because they cannot perform enough damage. Likewise, what if those 5 MNKs are all abyssea leveled and never went to skill their skill. Or come to the fight without acc food or i.wing, etc. etc.

If you dont have friends/ls where you can get help with, then formulate a strategy based on what jobs you can get (you can shout for it) and go farm up some tails.

[Evandis]

I already found my solution, I am out in Abyssea - Vunkerl with a stack of Elshena right now, so I can use it.