SE really?! really 99 cap boss this hard?!?!

[Evandis]

I love the ignorant responses in this thread about get better at your job, blah, blah, blah. The complaint isn't that it's hard it's that it is job-centric, for a limit break quest. I am sorry but the same people making the boys and men comment are the ones who would have leveled up WHM to beat WHM Maat rathern than original RDM Maat before nerf.

For the record I am 3/3 on the original RDM Maat for friends. I bet 99% of you would have been the WHM levelers.

I want a challenging BCNM, not a BCNM that forces me to level jobs I am not interested in.

EDIT: Got my Monk from 75 to 95 last night after 3 years of stagnation. Grabbed some Elshena and am on my way to skill-up H2H to cap. Then I will go ahead and PD MNK burn it and then come in here and talk about how easy it was and how much the rest of you suck.

[Doombringer]

I love the ignorant responses in this thread about get better at your job, blah, blah, blah. The complaint isn't that it's hard it's that it is job-centric, for a limit break quest. I am sorry but the same people making the boys and men comment are the ones who would have leveled up WHM to beat WHM Maat rathern than original RDM Maat before nerf.

For the record I am 3/3 on the original RDM Maat for friends. I bet 99% of you would have been the WHM levelers.

I want a challenging BCNM, not a BCNM that forces me to level jobs I am not interested in.

EDIT: Got my Monk from 75 to 95 last night after 3 years of stagnation. Grabbed some Elshena and am on my way to skill-up H2H to cap. Then I will go ahead and PD MNK burn it and then come in here and talk about how easy it was and how much the rest of you suck.

for the record, i beat maat on rdm.... 6 years ago. so i'm not impressed... and i beat this taru with pld nin whm bst rdm and mnk. what job is that centric on? we don't have 2 of anything? and we used no rarab tails...

[Evandis]

Too bad you beat a nerfed version. So I'M not impressed.

Anyone who beat this on a standard setup is LUCKY, not skilled. It means you didn't get the back to back light skill chains plus another Asuran on top of it with-in 5 seconds on your tank. Lucky. Not skilled.

[SNK]

Too bad you beat a nerfed version. So I'M not impressed.

Anyone who beat this on a standard setup is LUCKY, not skilled. It means you didn't get the back to back light skill chains plus another Asuran on top of it with-in 5 seconds on your tank. Lucky. Not skilled.

No, We just weren't stupid enough to rip hate off the tank when we did it. Good Teamwork and being patient is what made the win for us.

Oh and the PLD who tanked for us had a 95 Aegis along with a full -38% PDT in gear on. He pretty much wore straight up turtle-tanking gear instead of thinking that he was gonna be able to eat anything he threw.

RDM/SCH threw up Stoneskin AoE on us, BLU kept headbutting him during his two hour and the WHM constantly kept Barfira up along with Regen on our tank that it was probably the smoothest 1st time BC fight I'd done in a long time.

The more I thought about this fight, I could probably do it on my PLD as well and I don't have an Ochain or an Aegis. If people are pissing & crying this hard over this then please by all means keep crying or as some people have said already.... suck less. :|

[saevel]

No, We just weren't stupid enough to rip hate off the tank when we did it. Good Teamwork and being patient is what made the win for us.

Oh and the PLD who tanked for us had a 95 Aegis along with a full -38% PDT in gear on. He pretty much wore straight up turtle-tanking gear instead of thinking that he was gonna be able to eat anything he threw.

RDM/SCH threw up Stoneskin AoE on us, BLU kept headbutting him during his two hour and the WHM constantly kept Barfira up along with Regen on our tank that it was probably the smoothest 1st time BC fight I'd done in a long time.

The more I thought about this fight, I could probably do it on my PLD as well and I don't have an Ochain or an Aegis. If people are pissing & crying this hard over this then please by all means keep crying or as some people have said already.... suck less. :|

It's not about sucking, the Taru is cheap. He can at any point in time just kill someone, PLD tanks included. The chances of him just killing you go up the lower his HP is. If you had a PLD tank and he survived the fight, doesn't mean that everyone else sucks, only that your rolled well on your dice. The Taru didn't decide to do three to four WS's within the span of five to six seconds. When I did mine it was MNK MNK BLU (me) THF WHM SMN. We Crimson Howl + PD and ran in and 2hr'd him. Got him to under 30% when PD wore and within seconds both me and the THF were dead. I went from 100% HP with shadows up to dead before I could blink, didn't even have time to hit my Flashga macro. Not only that, but the THF also died during that time, it was so fast that it took me a second to register that it even happened. Thankfully we had read stories about him doing that and had an emergency plan that we immediately put into practice. WHM tossed his tail out the moment someone hit 0 HP. I RR'd and hit him with stuns or regurgitation while the 2 MNK's kept hitting him. He was down to less then 15% when the first tail wore and I immediately used mine (as we planned). he got one Ws off before he was running again. We killed him shortly thereafter.

So 1/1, does that mean we "kick ass" and everyone else needs to "suck less", absolutely not. It means we went in with plan A to zerg it but also had backup plan. Three of our members brought tails, just in case. I had set the required spells so that I could delay him while he zigzags all over the place. I even had a contingency plan to kite his a$$ around in circles should the situation get dire enough.

My only advice is to bring 3 tails. You may not need all three, you may not even need one, but should he decide to go cheap and start instantly killing people, you will be glad you brought them.

[Evandis]

No, We just weren't stupid enough to rip hate off the tank when we did it. Good Teamwork and being patient is what made the win for us.

Oh and the PLD who tanked for us had a 95 Aegis along with a full -38% PDT in gear on. He pretty much wore straight up turtle-tanking gear instead of thinking that he was gonna be able to eat anything he threw.

RDM/SCH threw up Stoneskin AoE on us, BLU kept headbutting him during his two hour and the WHM constantly kept Barfira up along with Regen on our tank that it was probably the smoothest 1st time BC fight I'd done in a long time.

The more I thought about this fight, I could probably do it on my PLD as well and I don't have an Ochain or an Aegis. If people are pissing & crying this hard over this then please by all means keep crying or as some people have said already.... suck less. :|

So, what you meant to say was. "I'm really not that good and I was lucky to find an Aegis PLD which literally can almost solo this mob if he didn't run out of time from lack of damage." Gotcha.

[Luvbunny]

So, what you meant to say was. "I'm really not that good and I was lucky to find an Aegis PLD which literally can almost solo this mob if he didn't run out of time from lack of damage." Gotcha.

Overall the common strategies are:
- bring 6 tails, use them one by one and mana burn this.
- bring a job that can do damage mitigation and give you enfire (summoner works with high summon magic)
- bring 4 monks and smn and sch (only works if the players have high weapon skills, summon magic, and enhancing)
- 6 beastmaster with 5-10 dawn muslums for each of the beastmaster
- bring normal party set up of players with competent skills and pld with Aegis and a couple tails for emergency
- multi hits weapon skills works the best, jobs dual wield with low delay weapons + enfire
- bring 6 summoner with Ifrit, Titan, Ramuh (titan to earthen ward, ifrit + ramuh for enspells and stun) and a couple tails
- above all, need competent players who at least understand their jobs (merited the jobs) and have good gears.

[saevel]

Overall the common strategies are:
- bring 6 tails, use them one by one and mana burn this.
- bring a job that can do damage mitigation and give you enfire (summoner works with high summon magic)
- bring 4 monks and smn and sch (only works if the players have high weapon skills, summon magic, and enhancing)
- 6 beastmaster with 5-10 dawn muslums for each of the beastmaster
- bring normal party set up of players with competent skills and pld with Aegis and a couple tails for emergency
- multi hits weapon skills works the best, jobs dual wield with low delay weapons + enfire
- bring 6 summoner with Ifrit, Titan, Ramuh (titan to earthen ward, ifrit + ramuh for enspells and stun) and a couple tails
- above all, need competent players who at least understand their jobs (merited the jobs) and have good gears.

Won't argue with this, but it does need to be mentioned that just because you fail doesn't mean you played bad. Fought him a few more times and he can be really random. This is very similar to the RDM Maat fight. It could go smoothly, or Maat could just decide to rip your face off no matter what you do.

[SNK]

So, what you meant to say was. "I'm really not that good and I was lucky to find an Aegis PLD which literally can almost solo this mob if he didn't run out of time from lack of damage." Gotcha.

Can't really say I found him seeing as I'd known that Aegis PLD since 2004. I tried it again without him and did it on my own PLD. Just came in wearing full -PDT gear and turtle tanked that taru like a pro. Point hasn't changed no matter who has what gear. Don't try and be stupid and use your head instead of thinking that you can just either run in and zerg it or halfass it. It's the final limit break fight so of course it's going to be a challange. He's an easy fight if you do it right which people have explained to you in this thread not once but multiple times.

P.S. I was one of the 1st NA RDMs on Fairy to beat Maat on RDM. It took me two tries to do it.



Suck Less.

[Unleashhell]

I love the ignorant responses in this thread about get better at your job, blah, blah, blah. The complaint isn't that it's hard it's that it is job-centric, for a limit break quest. I am sorry but the same people making the boys and men comment are the ones who would have leveled up WHM to beat WHM Maat rathern than original RDM Maat before nerf.

Just curious... Did you read the subject line of the topic?