SE really?! really 99 cap boss this hard?!?!

[browolf]

I expect, eventually, the easiest way to get it done will be to level mnk as there will always be parties looking for more mnks.

[Logandor]

I expect, eventually, the easiest way to get it done will be to level mnk as there will always be parties looking for more mnks.

I can not see why your sam won't be invited to do this fight if you have a rdm or pld come join you on the fight. That is my thought though sense last time I do recall sam can deal some major damage and with a spammed stuns and tails going you should be able to wrestle him down. Just a thought though.

[Zarchery]

Won this fight today. Gonna swallow my pride here and admit I was wrong. While it was challenging, it was not excessively difficult. All my failures came from banging my head against the wall and trying gimmicky zerg tactics (multiple MNK with Alexander and multiple BST tactics). One of the things about the multiple MNK tactic is that it's not gonna work if one or more of your Monks just microwaved MNK to 95 in Abyssea over a few days and has low H2H skill or bad gear or no Asuran Fists.

Winning party was PLD THF THF WHM BLM MNK. I was the BLM. Everyone seemed to have so-so gear. We had 3 Olde Rarab Tails but only used 2. I think we fought normally for a while. I tossed some backup cures when the PLD got critical, but mostly stuck to throwing low tier nukes (Stone, Stone II, Fire, Fire II) which did around 90 damage each and some stuns. Subbed RDM for Refresh and Convert, though by the time I needed the MP from Convert, it was right after Reraising so it wasn't gonna do me any good.

I think the MNK used Hundred Fists around 80%. PLD might've used Invincible around this time too, I forget. I know that he did use it at some point. The taru used Hundred Fists a little later (maybe 50%) and we used the first Rarab Tail. When this happened, I used Manfont, ran to the center of the arena, and just went nuts with Comet and some high tier nukes (I think I just cycled through the -ja nukes, not really paying attention). That took off a substantial amount of his MP. After tail wore off, I had built up a massive amount of hate so he walked over and made short work of me.

No big deal, he was down to about 5% at this point. Someone used the 2nd tail and I reraised. I tried to finish him off with one more big nuke, but panicked a little when the game said "Not enough MP." Luckily our quick thinking WHM saw what was happening and gave me Devotion for some quick MP which was just enough to finish the bastard off with Aero V.

Fun, exhilarating experience. I find it appalling that some people scoff and say "the fight is easy, you just suck". It's not easy. Easy is a quest BC like the WOTG fight "Bonds of Mythril" in which you can take 3 people and win without breaking a sweat. This is difficult, but not unwinnable.

I still think there is a major problem with making something that's gonna require a balanced 6-man party, when a month or more down the road most people have done this and it's gonna be harder to do with pickup groups. A solo version, like they did with avatar prime fights, would be nice. Also might be nice to make the Rarab Tails sellable on auction house.

[Teraniku]

I still think there is a major problem with making something that's gonna require a balanced 6-man party, when a month or more down the road most people have done this and it's gonna be harder to do with pickup groups. A solo version, like they did with avatar prime fights, would be nice. Also might be nice to make the Rarab Tails sellable on auction house.

While I don't argue your logic, honestly has no one ever heard of the term "pay it forward"? This is a Multiplayer game after all.

-See the big thing about making a solo version of this fight, is the same argument you are giving about the team fight. Only specific jobs will be able to solo it and that just defeats the purpose. Is a WHM suppose to be able to solo the fight? If a WHM can solo it, any job will be able to solo it, and easily too. Sort of defeats the purpose of having an ultimate limit break, doesn't it?

[Ravenmore]

Or they could make it scale with party size or what job but that would take money away from FF14.

[Ketaru]

So, you're part of the problem, "Pink set = no," so basically "Level 99 should only be allowed for those with end game linkshells that whore out gear for people." Yep, this game really is doomed.

As opposed to what since in SEs brilliancy they made most high level gear R/EX that requires you either already have good gear to solo to obtain it, or multiple people top help.

Empyrean armor +1 seals are all questable. I spammed the silly description matching quest to finish my Est. body and it took a very long time and I had enough BLU seals to finish 3 Mavi bodies in the interim, but getting the Empyrean AF +1 gear is only a matter of time.

Stop making excuses for why you still use Aurore or whatever.

[Zarchery]

While I don't argue your logic, honestly has no one ever heard of the term "pay it forward"? This is a Multiplayer game after all.

-See the big thing about making a solo version of this fight, is the same argument you are giving about the team fight. Only specific jobs will be able to solo it and that just defeats the purpose. Is a WHM suppose to be able to solo the fight? If a WHM can solo it, any job will be able to solo it, and easily too. Sort of defeats the purpose of having an ultimate limit break, doesn't it?

Oh I agree with the principle of "pay it forward" and often do, but I'm just one guy.

You make a decent point about a solo version, but let's not forget Beastmaster. The job was specifically introduced for people who prefer to solo. Now granted a new BST will have to get outside help for limit breaks 1, 2, and possibly farming testimonies for 5, but there he would need only one helper and not 5.

[Khajit]

Oh I agree with the principle of "pay it forward" and often do, but I'm just one guy.

You make a decent point about a solo version, but let's not forget Beastmaster. The job was specifically introduced for people who prefer to solo. Now granted a new BST will have to get outside help for limit breaks 1, 2, and possibly farming testimonies for 5, but there he would need only one helper and not 5.

Bst wasn't introduced for people who liked to solo. SE did such a good job of completely fucking up bst in the first nerf that bst has never recovered since.
For those who dont know Killer effects used to give atk acc crit rate and haste which of course affects bst alot more.

It didn't help that SE considered (and still considers?) the ideal party/exp fights to be against waves of DC with the occasional Em. Nor did the jug pets cutting into exp help. nor did charmed mobs cutting into exp if you got one high enough level to actually do something. Now that I think of it we have GOV now so it took them nearly 10 years to actually make thier misguided assumptions about thier own playerbase halfway accurate?(I wouldn't know since i've never been in a bookburn)

[Runespider]

just repeated this fight for a ls member, we went with 5 characters (including 1 mule) and won. no rarab tails. 5 characters. granted a few of us were 99. but... 5....

I did it with 5 too, (3 of which were mules) all 95, no tails and without PD. The point was never that it was an impossible fight..it's generally accepted it wsn't that bad for people with good gear. People are complaining cause it was difficult for the majority of players with no af3/no emps etc etc.

[Shong]

I'm the clown that can at least beat an easy BCNM fight

Correction you are the clown who claims he beat a easy bcnm, so wheres these other 5 people u left unnamed?