SE really?! really 99 cap boss this hard?!?!

[Unleashhell]

This thread is still going on lol. If you haven't beaten this by now you should just quit.

[scaevola]

Dunno why everyone is crazy about having MNKs to hundred fists with. Most people should know by now that it actually gimps your damage if you're doing it right :/

As GreatGuardian mentioned somewhere earlier, it is precisely because MNKx3+/SMN does not require you to do it right (whatever it might refer to) in order to win this fight that makes it so easy and popular to recommend to players about whose skill we can't speculate.

[Alhanelem]

Most people should know by now that it actually gimps your damage if you're doing it right

Most people also don't have the stuff necessary to get to the point where 100 fists declines to uselessness (Yes, "most people" have low end gear and dont know how to play their job)

[Siiri]

Well, we have gotten our entire linkshell through the limit break with the mnk x3 , SMN + 2 leech strategy. Gone 6 times so far. Set or broke a record every time, except the time we brought a war. Idiot proof is right, and when you have a bunch of people who expect their linkshell leaders to help, I prefer easy.

[SpankWustler]

players about whose skill we can't speculate.

I can!

Statistically, skill is likely to be "below-average" with the closest outliers being "unrelentingly awful", "good enough...maybe", and "I think he or she has a level 60 weapon equipped." I'm not sure how the average is calculated such that the majority can be "below average", but it sounds right to me!

Given that, I can definitely see the benefit of a totally idiot-proof strategy.

[Greatguardian]

Most people also don't have the stuff necessary to get to the point where 100 fists declines to uselessness (Yes, "most people" have low end gear and dont know how to play their job)

It was already determined that Reit was working with an outdated definition of Hundred Fists' effect. There is no possible way for Monk's 2hr to work against them. In the worst case scenario, it provides 0 benefit. This only happens when you are hitting the delay reduction cap from gear and outside buffs, and you are unable to swap out Haste gear due to a lack of better non-Haste alternatives. Since this doesn't happen, Hundred Fists is always a benefit to the player if they bother to change their TP set while it's up.

[FrankReynolds]

....and you are unable to swap out Haste gear due to a lack of better non-Haste alternatives...

It's funny how many people don't realize this. At the very least, lazy people can just swap into their WS set.

[Alerith]

To those of you crying about not having 20/20 jobs, empyreans weapons, etc. etc., you can kiss my shiny gallant ass.

Paladin is my ONLY job over 90. And BLU is my only other job over 75. (No gear, procs only)

5/5 +2 Creed. NO EMPYREAN WEAPON. Honorbound and Siegneur shield. Pickup group, one weakness item.
No linkshell.

Do you know how often PLD gets to do anything? "Wahhhh! They don't want my job!" Shut the hell up. Suck it up, put your own damn group together and quit your bitching. Its time you stopped following like a damn dog and put your own runs together.

[bloodbeat]

I thought the whole ordeal was hellish and unnecessary. It may be ideally suited to people who have busy Linkshells and an arsenal of fully leveled jobs at your disposal BUT that is not the *entire* player base.
I can imagine that this quest will do the horrible misdeed of putting all the players who don't play extensively, or during US/JP popular hours into an unenviable spot of having to seek a full party in a game full of players that are level 99 and not interested in doing the fight over and over

[Logandor]

Okay finally done with it. Now to help others. Went in 91whm, 4 95 blms, and 95 bst (hippo pet) and owned him. We used two tails (only had two) but a third would of kept one blm from dirt napping. whm buffed group prior to entering & tossed reraise on just in case. Entered bst sic'd pet on taru as Blms 2hour nuked his booty. After first nuke went off we used a tail then waited 31 seconds. By then he was at 45-35% hp and we tossed the 2nd tail and continued to nuke. Healer did devotion to lowest mp blm so they could keep nuking. @ 5% tail wore and we lost one blm as whm/blm stunned and others nuked the last 5%. Everyone including the dead blm (had reraise on) got the victory. We killed him in about 3 minutes. Except for the occasional cure and that one stun whm probably wasn't needed from the looks of things.
It was a fun fight though I still got to say. Only 3blms, bst, and whm had empy gear on, other blm was in teal set. After thinking about it the fight wasn't hard at all just needing a plan that everyone listens and goes with from the get go. Can't wait to do this again for others.