SE really?! really 99 cap boss this hard?!?!

[Tavien]

Not to be a jerk but can't you see why some people have an issue with this? Assuming all content is made to be accessed by all players, why create a situation wherein you're falling back on CoP original strategies? My gripe with CoP was if you didn't have the relevant jobs you couldn't go. And as always, woe betide you if you're hoping people who already have their rings are going to come back and do something that's actually challenging again. It's why I was so happy when they originally dropped the caps on CoP, content that was fun to do and I could do it on my own time.

With this cap, I can't help but feel up against the clock. Look back through this thread and you'll see all kinds of posts saying you can do it with anything but you'll find a great number more that say you're best shot is to use xyz jobs. The longer it takes for me to do this, the less people im going to be able to find to help. And frankly I don't feel like levelling xy or z to get through. If I'd wanted to do that job, I'd already be sitting at 99 laughing.

Im not saying I hate difficult content. But when its something mandatory like a level cap, why should it be so tricky for players based on job choice?

[RAIST]

Not to be a jerk but can't you see why some people have an issue with this? Assuming all content is made to be accessed by all players, why create a situation wherein you're falling back on CoP original strategies? My gripe with CoP was if you didn't have the relevant jobs you couldn't go. And as always, woe betide you if you're hoping people who already have their rings are going to come back and do something that's actually challenging again. It's why I was so happy when they originally dropped the caps on CoP, content that was fun to do and I could do it on my own time.

With this cap, I can't help but feel up against the clock. Look back through this thread and you'll see all kinds of posts saying you can do it with anything but you'll find a great number more that say you're best shot is to use xyz jobs. The longer it takes for me to do this, the less people im going to be able to find to help. And frankly I don't feel like levelling xy or z to get through. If I'd wanted to do that job, I'd already be sitting at 99 laughing.

Im not saying I hate difficult content. But when its something mandatory like a level cap, why should it be so tricky for players based on job choice?

This can be applied to any major fight...CoP is just one that comes to mind first because it was the first one I started on that really gave me any trouble (for the most part, ZM was a joke with my LS at the time...I basically just tagged along on BLM to fill in specific roles they needed). Pick your most annoying boss fight....be that something in TAU, wotG, a certain BCNM, ENM....whatever the case may be, think about what you did to finally beat that @#$@#$.

The point is, everyone needs to approach this fight just like every other pain in the @$$ fight we had in the past. It's like everyone has been spoiled by the easy button over the past year and has forgotten what it is like to actually play the game with any common sense.

[Whippet]

The problem is that people are used to abyssea which is 0 challenge.

So when they come to the first door close, they cry MOMMY I CANT OPEN THIS DOOR MWHAAAAAA

People need to stop sucking that is all

I was really sad when i did COP on this char cuz i had 0 problems.

When idid Airship on my first char costed me 1mill in med and we took 4 times t owin we didn't cry we worked and won

[Khajit]

Did the fight on Saturday. It was easy. You guys need to stop sucking.

[MAXWINTER]

Dont really enjoy fights like this one at all but i will look back on ff11 in a good way , probley one of most fun boss fights in the game is the shadow lord.
There been a few i hated but will think of the good ones in the future.

[Zero-Hour]

I love the way all the people who walked through the fight with their party full of skilled, well geared capped leveled players look back on it as an "easy" fight..

There are a large amount of players out there who do not have the benefit of a supportive linkshell full of age-long friends.
Who don't have any of the sought after jobs leveled or who are just not comfortable in large groups who will *never* be able to break 95.

Those laughing off the fight as "easy" when people are complaining of 0/x attempts really don't help.

All the other level breaks (with the exception of a bit of farming for the early breaks) have been a test of personal strength/tactical thinking/just getting the work done to prove to maat or that moogle that you can have the next level.

Now we have a level break that *requires* the best gear in the game and a full party to get through. No amount of work can get around this. If you don't have *other* people to prove that *you* are worthy you don't get through. What is wrong with that picture?

Once the buzz has died down, there will be many left at 95. Forcing a full, skilled, capped, well geared party before a personal barrier can be broken is plain wrong.

I am all for a challenge, but when it is for personal advancement, let it be a personal challenge.

Much as many of us hated the Maat fight, it was possible with the right tactics on ANY job. This fight, for many, will be the mountain too high.

I only hope that SE include a re-think of this when they impliment the level break revision announced for sometime next year.

[Tavien]

All the other level breaks (with the exception of a bit of farming for the early breaks) have been a test of personal strength/tactical thinking/just getting the work done to prove to maat or that moogle that you can have the next level.

Now we have a level break that *requires* the best gear in the game and a full party to get through. No amount of work can get around this. If you don't have *other* people to prove that *you* are worthy you don't get through. What is wrong with that picture?

Once the buzz has died down, there will be many left at 95. Forcing a full, skilled, capped, well geared party before a personal barrier can be broken is plain wrong.

I am all for a challenge, but when it is for personal advancement, let it be a personal challenge.

Much as many of us hated the Maat fight, it was possible with the right tactics on ANY job. This fight, for many, will be the mountain too high.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is what im trying to highlight. Unfortunately for me, I have a severe case of not being able to type anything I actually want to say so im glad this fine fellow has said everything he has.

Im not against challenging fights but you've got to think about the long term affect of a battle like this. Especially when its a central part of character advancement. I can safely say that three monks and a summoner make this fight stupid. But I think I lucked out on people who needed the cap. If you review the census findings im pretty sure the job balance isnt 3:1 in favour of monks?

[Morier]

I love the way all the people who walked through the fight with their party full of skilled, well geared capped leveled players look back on it as an "easy" fight..

There are a large amount of players out there who do not have the benefit of a supportive linkshell full of age-long friends.

I did it in a shout group, no items, it was easy. Stop crying.

[Whippet]

I love the way all the people who walked through the fight with their party full of skilled, well geared capped leveled players look back on it as an "easy" fight..

There are a large amount of players out there who do not have the benefit of a supportive linkshell full of age-long friends.
Who don't have any of the sought after jobs leveled or who are just not comfortable in large groups who will *never* be able to break 95.

Those laughing off the fight as "easy" when people are complaining of 0/x attempts really don't help.


All the other level breaks (with the exception of a bit of farming for the early breaks) have been a test of personal strength/tactical thinking/just getting the work done to prove to maat or that moogle that you can have the next level.

Now we have a level break that *requires* the best gear in the game and a full party to get through. No amount of work can get around this. If you don't have *other* people to prove that *you* are worthy you don't get through. What is wrong with that picture?

Once the buzz has died down, there will be many left at 95. Forcing a full, skilled, capped, well geared party before a personal barrier can be broken is plain wrong.

I am all for a challenge, but when it is for personal advancement, let it be a personal challenge.

Much as many of us hated the Maat fight, it was possible with the right tactics on ANY job. This fight, for many, will be the mountain too high.

I only hope that SE include a re-think of this when they impliment the level break revision announced for sometime next year.

The THF in ym PT was full aurore gear

PLD had a Koenig Shield and full perl.

I was the only one with the MNK that geared swap.

The reason we won was because the leader (the monk) annoyed people about what to do and made sure they understand. You guys that sucks are like kids we need to take you by the hand or else you won't do anything.

Stop blaming square you wipe you suck the fight is easy

[Tavien]

I did it in a shout group, no items, it was easy. Stop crying.

So did I. Doesn't mean that my shout group wasnt 3 monks and a summoner though.What got you through? I doubt it was all the jobs no one wanted?