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  1. #311
    Player svengalis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenmore View Post
    You don't get anything special for not using the item so why not use it to get past it. Guess what everyone can get one.
    I didn't want waste my time farming the items knowing I could loose even if I had it.
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  2. #312
    Player Babekeke's Avatar
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    The rabbit tail is only useful if not relying on melees to do your damage, or if you pop it as a last resort to cure bomb everyone back to full, or let the mages rest. If you're using melees to do damage and you pop a tail, you've lost most of your damage during that time from chasing him around.

    If you were relying on PD HF and you use a tail, you've lost.

    Also, I'm quite surprised at just how many people are struggling to find this 1337 setup of monks and a PD smn, considering that abyssea means most people have lots of different jobs levelled.

    Admittedly, some 95 mnks don't have asuran, as they leeched to cap, then got their LS to get them a Vere, so it was never an issue, and not all smn bothered to get alex yet even though he has been around for a while.

    However, I went in for a 2nd run to help a friend and we got 3 mnks, rdm smn and me. I was going to go as thf (you only need 3 mnks to win if they're half-decent) since my mnk isn't well geared, and at 95 only had ~320 H2H skill. It turned out though that 2 mnks were only 91, and the 95 monk didn't have asuran and was all in pink, so I went on mnk too after killing a mob to put me at 96.

    My level 91 mnk friend pulled hate from me about half way through the fight as he was much better geared than I was, also I lost some of my HF time because the rdm cast enfeeble right at start and pulled hate as we were about to hit him, so we had to chase him for a couple of seconds.

    Anyway, we won with some gimped people so just goes to show that as long as you get an alex smn, any mnks will do for this. Just don't wear your haste gear during HF FFS, unless it's also the best acc gear you have too. (I had 7% haste equipped >.>)
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    Last edited by Babekeke; 12-19-2011 at 08:00 PM.

  3. #313
    Player svengalis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned4FFxi View Post
    The tail should give the taru mnk (maat's master, and bb quest npc) the terror effect, not make him run all over. The fights only 10 minutes long, having the mnk run away is a pretty dumb idea for an enfeeblement.
    It is also, if you go with an all melee setup and no stun what's the point in even bringing one.
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  4. #314
    Player hiko's Avatar
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    Meuporg
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    BST Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned4FFxi View Post
    The tail should give the taru mnk (maat's master, and bb quest npc) the terror effect, not make him run all over. The fights only 10 minutes long, having the mnk run away is a pretty dumb idea for an enfeeblement.
    no, that will make the fight way to easy, duobale by any decent DD+DD with 2 tails (since it also remove dmg limit)
    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    It is also, if you go with an all melee setup and no stun what's the point in even bringing one.
    remove dmg limit? use at start, let him run( run also if you dont want to be hit), when he stop fight like if you didnt use it but doing a lot more dmg or just use it when he HF
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  5. #315
    Player HimuraKenshyn's Avatar
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    Starskyy
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    Shiva
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    Man with the olde rarab tail my 2 mules won easily with a pickup that included a 91 BLM lol. So 3 BLM, 1 Cor, and 2 Blu completed it in 5 minutes. We used 2 tails and had 1 death the B,LM that didn't use his tail fast enough lol. So really not that bad at all if you get tails even a gimp group can win blms dressed in teal ftw lol.
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  6. #316
    Player Zero-Hour's Avatar
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    Kassinia
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    Siren
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    I agree with the OP that this fight is way too hard. For those that don't want to party with complete strangers or train the only jobs that are acceptable the level cap will stay firmly nailed down at 95.

    This fight should be tactical and soloable. Once the rush has died down people will never be able to complete it, or forced to pay mercenary linkshells 1m gil or whatever for a clear.

    I fight is a groupl of 4 and will NEVER move outside that. We have now accepted that we will remain at 95 for the forseeable future.

    I find it bazaar that SE is simplifying the game in all directions and then throw this in at this late stage.
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  7. #317
    Player HimuraKenshyn's Avatar
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    You can't farm up the items for tails are you that bad? Lol man if my mules can get the win with a group of gimps and just used 2 tails to win its beyond me how anyone can't win the fight lol.

    At least its not like COP back in the day now that was level X job just to win the level 30. Most jobs can unlock rng and easily /rng for the win if they have marksmanship or archery leveled but from what i am reading many may not lol.
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    Last edited by HimuraKenshyn; 12-20-2011 at 01:38 AM.

  8. #318
    Player scaevola's Avatar
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    Scaevola
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    Cerberus
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    No melee in a tail strat? Is he for some reason immune to gravity despite being susceptible to like every other debuff?

    Honest question, actually; I don't know, because I cleared it friday night after my shell got fed up with waiting for certain people to log on or for an FBone to drop (how many IT+s do I have to solo to show how commited I am to making the LB fight as easy as possible?) and went MNK/MNK/MNK/NIN/NIN/SMN. Many lols were had.

    Again, the fight's not inappropriately difficult, but the clock is definitely ticking; shouts for LB groups by Sunday night were (predictably) waaaaay down from where they were Friday.

    In a related story, Tachi: Shoha is hilarious.
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    Last edited by scaevola; 12-20-2011 at 02:13 AM.
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  9. #319
    Player Greatguardian's Avatar
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    Tachi: Shoha is hilarious. So is Last Stand. I was unimpressed with Last Stand damage on EPs and in Sea, but taking it to Voidwatch really knocked things out of the part. Pretty consistent 2k+ on Jeuno Part 4 and 5.
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  10. #320
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    No melee in a tail strat? Is he for some reason immune to gravity despite being susceptible to like every other debuff?
    He resisted Gravity, Bind and Break when I tried to solo him for giggles. Admittedly I didn't take the time to test with an ample sample size or using elemental seal, but it would be par for the course if he were outright immune to those.
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