SE really?! really 99 cap boss this hard?!?!

[Ravenmore]

PD zerg is no different then a item fight. In fact the it let you fight it with all mage or just what ever you have on hand which is great. Still was fun nuking a little taru down into the ground while he runs around reminds me of the orc tower or dyna sandy.

[saevel]

No, We just weren't stupid enough to rip hate off the tank when we did it. Good Teamwork and being patient is what made the win for us.

Oh and the PLD who tanked for us had a 95 Aegis along with a full -38% PDT in gear on. He pretty much wore straight up turtle-tanking gear instead of thinking that he was gonna be able to eat anything he threw.

RDM/SCH threw up Stoneskin AoE on us, BLU kept headbutting him during his two hour and the WHM constantly kept Barfira up along with Regen on our tank that it was probably the smoothest 1st time BC fight I'd done in a long time.

The more I thought about this fight, I could probably do it on my PLD as well and I don't have an Ochain or an Aegis. If people are pissing & crying this hard over this then please by all means keep crying or as some people have said already.... suck less. :|

It's not about sucking, the Taru is cheap. He can at any point in time just kill someone, PLD tanks included. The chances of him just killing you go up the lower his HP is. If you had a PLD tank and he survived the fight, doesn't mean that everyone else sucks, only that your rolled well on your dice. The Taru didn't decide to do three to four WS's within the span of five to six seconds. When I did mine it was MNK MNK BLU (me) THF WHM SMN. We Crimson Howl + PD and ran in and 2hr'd him. Got him to under 30% when PD wore and within seconds both me and the THF were dead. I went from 100% HP with shadows up to dead before I could blink, didn't even have time to hit my Flashga macro. Not only that, but the THF also died during that time, it was so fast that it took me a second to register that it even happened. Thankfully we had read stories about him doing that and had an emergency plan that we immediately put into practice. WHM tossed his tail out the moment someone hit 0 HP. I RR'd and hit him with stuns or regurgitation while the 2 MNK's kept hitting him. He was down to less then 15% when the first tail wore and I immediately used mine (as we planned). he got one Ws off before he was running again. We killed him shortly thereafter.

So 1/1, does that mean we "kick ass" and everyone else needs to "suck less", absolutely not. It means we went in with plan A to zerg it but also had backup plan. Three of our members brought tails, just in case. I had set the required spells so that I could delay him while he zigzags all over the place. I even had a contingency plan to kite his a$$ around in circles should the situation get dire enough.

My only advice is to bring 3 tails. You may not need all three, you may not even need one, but should he decide to go cheap and start instantly killing people, you will be glad you brought them.

[Neisan_Quetz]

1/1 died in 1 min 10 seconds of fighting after using PD same strat...

We had a brd mule though, but he gave attack songs for the mnks and I was the only one with marches.


mnk/mnk/blu/brd/smn/whm (brd and whm were mules).

[svengalis]

No, We just weren't stupid enough to rip hate off the tank when we did it. Good Teamwork and being patient is what made the win for us.

Oh and the PLD who tanked for us had a 95 Aegis along with a full -38% PDT in gear on. He pretty much wore straight up turtle-tanking gear instead of thinking that he was gonna be able to eat anything he threw.

RDM/SCH threw up Stoneskin AoE on us, BLU kept headbutting him during his two hour and the WHM constantly kept Barfira up along with Regen on our tank that it was probably the smoothest 1st time BC fight I'd done in a long time.

The more I thought about this fight, I could probably do it on my PLD as well and I don't have an Ochain or an Aegis. If people are pissing & crying this hard over this then please by all means keep crying or as some people have said already.... suck less. :|

When your tank gets one shotted because of asuran fists you have no choice but to pull hate.

[Kalilla]

I haven't been reading this thread but I figured I'd drop in to tell you my setup.

I've won this fight twice with this setup:

PLD > WHM (me) > BLU > THF > BLM > BLM

and the 2nd time we replaced blm with a drg that needed help.

First time the PLD used his Ochain and 2nd time I asked him to try w/o it to see if it made or break (since I've been hearing that was the only way to win this fight) and it went just as well.

The PLD's HP went up and down quite a bit but if your WHM is paying attention and on top of things I think it isn't too bad. I personally subbed RDM because I felt that I would need the extra MP pool and it did help a lot.

Really no huge strategy besides go in, fight, and keep the tank alive. Also the BLM's nukes didn't do much at all.

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Personally I think Perfect Defense should of been deactivated for this fight. I said it after they announced it being a battle and still stand by what I said. I think it's very broken and a very cheap way to defeat your enemy, but that's just me.

I understand others might have to end up relying on such strategy to win and that's okay with me, I have no issue with that. I am simply stating my opinion on what I think about PD is all.

[Evandis]

No, We just weren't stupid enough to rip hate off the tank when we did it. Good Teamwork and being patient is what made the win for us.

Oh and the PLD who tanked for us had a 95 Aegis along with a full -38% PDT in gear on. He pretty much wore straight up turtle-tanking gear instead of thinking that he was gonna be able to eat anything he threw.

RDM/SCH threw up Stoneskin AoE on us, BLU kept headbutting him during his two hour and the WHM constantly kept Barfira up along with Regen on our tank that it was probably the smoothest 1st time BC fight I'd done in a long time.

The more I thought about this fight, I could probably do it on my PLD as well and I don't have an Ochain or an Aegis. If people are pissing & crying this hard over this then please by all means keep crying or as some people have said already.... suck less. :|

So, what you meant to say was. "I'm really not that good and I was lucky to find an Aegis PLD which literally can almost solo this mob if he didn't run out of time from lack of damage." Gotcha.

[Neisan_Quetz]

I read "Take it slow, don't be braindead fight isn't that hard"

[Luvbunny]

Personally I think Perfect Defense should of been deactivated for this fight. I said it after they announced it being a battle and still stand by what I said. I think it's very broken and a very cheap way to defeat your enemy, but that's just me.

I understand others might have to end up relying on such strategy to win and that's okay with me, I have no issue with that. I am simply stating my opinion on what I think about PD is all.

Perfect Defense only works well if your summoner has summon magic high enough - low magic seems not working well since the taru would tear the DD apart. Your DD also need weapon skills over 320 ish or they would not be able to deal enough damage in 90 seconds and will get murdered one by one. Enfire is the key - so rdm, sch or summoner need to have their respective magic skills high enough to deal good damage.

A lot of strategies works - but you have to bring a minimum of 4 competent players and 2 casual corners. 6 casual corners will have tough time with this bcnm. Even the beastmaster x 6 is not guaranteed if your beastmasters just leveled the job last weekend or barely have enough gears (and not full merit the job). Participants need to bring food, meds, and in some cases "rarab tails" item. This bcnm can be cakewalk or frustrating one. If you used up all your 2 hours and need to recharge - just bring your party to aby and get ISL or if you happen to have revitalizer in aby, now it is the time to use it.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Perfect Defense isn't affected by summoning skill...
Howl is though.

[Luvbunny]

So, what you meant to say was. "I'm really not that good and I was lucky to find an Aegis PLD which literally can almost solo this mob if he didn't run out of time from lack of damage." Gotcha.

Overall the common strategies are:
- bring 6 tails, use them one by one and mana burn this.
- bring a job that can do damage mitigation and give you enfire (summoner works with high summon magic)
- bring 4 monks and smn and sch (only works if the players have high weapon skills, summon magic, and enhancing)
- 6 beastmaster with 5-10 dawn muslums for each of the beastmaster
- bring normal party set up of players with competent skills and pld with Aegis and a couple tails for emergency
- multi hits weapon skills works the best, jobs dual wield with low delay weapons + enfire
- bring 6 summoner with Ifrit, Titan, Ramuh (titan to earthen ward, ifrit + ramuh for enspells and stun) and a couple tails
- above all, need competent players who at least understand their jobs (merited the jobs) and have good gears.