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  1. #151
    Player Evandis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finuve View Post
    do you remember in the other post where I mentioned stun? has abyssea really been around long enough that people forgot that when somthing strong is going off, they can stun it, i mean crazy right, if I see my tank take a lot of damage from asuran fists, maybe I'll idk immediately stun so he can get healed instead of eating another asuran fists, crazy IDK, and I have no idea how this would work because I didn't do it or anything while I did the fight
    Are you missing the back to back part? It's happening so fast that by the time people hit the stun macro our tanks are dropping.
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  2. #152
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    "who is really unskilled...." wow.. again, get over yourself. you're not the only one in this room who beat maat "back in the day" and since you mentioned it, i beat cop before they gimped it to.. yes, before the FIRST gimp. not the new one where they removed all the lvl caps, the gimp YEARS go.. before that one. oh, also.. all the jobs i have at 95+ now, i had at 75 before abyssea came out. (granted it's only 3, but if i had wanted a 4th i would have leveled it 3 years ago..)

    so stop whipping this arbitrary stuff out like it proves you're better.

    1) it doesn't, honestly my collective response could be summed up as *yawn* "been there done that"
    2) it doesn't help you anyway... and until you can wave that resume at the taru and he goes "oh shit! nvm, i give up" it never will.


    obviously this taru has bruised your mighty maat beating ego. sorry guy. like i said, if SE wants to make it easier i have no problem with that, but don't sit there and rattle on about how you somehow "deserve" this win more than me because you THINK you've been playing longer and you CLAIM to have been good half a decade ago..

    also i'd like to point out, i wasn't in this thread telling people they suck, i just mentioned it was only marginally difficult for me, and with proper planning it seemed like most people should be able to do it.
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  3. #153
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    get a tank that doesnt suck, even if he gets light off it should not kill, and by the time the animation is playing for the second WS you will ALWAYS have enough time for a stun

    so use strat I mentioned, find tank that doesnt die from Light, make sure stunner can fricking stun
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  4. #154
    Player wildsprite's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evandis View Post
    Let's talk about who is really unskilled, it's the majority of you, who needed RDM Maat gimped, who needed CoP missions gimped, who needed Abyssea and GoV exp handed on a silver platter with atmas that make you look much better than you are. Without that, all your 95 jobs would still be underleveled in the 30s and you would have your one 67 job struggling to get by in the environments that many others thrived on. So I guess those were the truly skilled people.
    so wait, you are going to sit there and say because you beat CoP capped it makes you skilled, fraid not, CoP was capped because they could not think of any real challenges for us, all that shows is you remember how to play your job at lower levels, you're not skilled because you beat it with the cap on, I agree with you on the abyssea points though, most players are unskilled due to it, this fight is a disappointment, you people that love it can have it. I wanted a real challenge, not a 3 to 6 man fight....something I didn't have to rely on other players for because as you said lack of skill comes into play for most, I agree that the final LB should be a challenge, you people throwing direct insults at each other really need to grow up.
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  5. #155
    Player Evandis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doombringer View Post
    "who is really unskilled...." wow.. again, get over yourself. you're not the only one in this room who beat maat "back in the day" and since you mentioned it, i beat cop before they gimped it to.. yes, before the FIRST gimp. not the new one where they removed all the lvl caps, the gimp YEARS go.. before that one. oh, also.. all the jobs i have at 95+ now, i had at 75 before abyssea came out. (granted it's only 3, but if i had wanted a 4th i would have leveled it 3 years ago..)

    so stop whipping this arbitrary stuff out like it proves you're better.

    1) it doesn't, honestly my collective response could be summed up as *yawn* "been there done that"
    2) it doesn't help you anyway... and until you can wave that resume at the taru and he goes "oh shit! nvm, i give up" it never will.


    obviously this taru has bruised your mighty maat beating ego. sorry guy. like i said, if SE wants to make it easier i have no problem with that, but don't sit there and rattle on about how you somehow "deserve" this win more than me because you THINK you've been playing longer and you CLAIM to have been good half a decade ago..

    also i'd like to point out, i wasn't in this thread telling people they suck, i just mentioned it was only marginally difficult for me, and with proper planning it seemed like most people should be able to do it.
    The only people here who are making claims that someone deserves the win more than others are the jackoffs like you with their boys and men comments and all those who are struggling with it must suck. I am waiting for you to solo it.
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  6. #156
    Player Finuve's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildsprite View Post
    so wait, you are going to sit there and say because you beat CoP capped it makes you skilled, fraid not, CoP was capped because they could not think of any real challenges for us, all that shows is you remember how to play your job at lower levels, you're not skilled because you beat it with the cap on, I agree with you on the abyssea points though, most players are unskilled due to it, this fight is a disappointment, you people that love it can have it. I wanted a real challenge, not a 3 to 6 man fight....something I didn't have to rely on other players for because as you said lack of skill comes into play for most, I agree that the final LB should be a challenge, you people throwing direct insults at each other really need to grow up.
    solo challenges got old with maat, team challenges are what ffxi is built on

    my only problem with this LB fight was it was too easy and allowed you to use a gimmick item CoP style
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  7. #157
    Player Evandis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildsprite View Post
    so wait, you are going to sit there and say because you beat CoP capped it makes you skilled, fraid not, CoP was capped because they could not think of any real challenges for us, all that shows is you remember how to play your job at lower levels, you're not skilled because you beat it with the cap on, I agree with you on the abyssea points though, most players are unskilled due to it, this fight is a disappointment, you people that love it can have it. I wanted a real challenge, not a 3 to 6 man fight....something I didn't have to rely on other players for because as you said lack of skill comes into play for most, I agree that the final LB should be a challenge, you people throwing direct insults at each other really need to grow up.
    I am fine with it being a challenge, one that all jobs can engage in, probably should be a solo challenge, then those who actually know their jobs win, the ones who deserve it, not the ones who just hit attack and ws macros.

    Not everyone can have the top notch gear right away, it takes awhile, especially for people who have to farm their seals with randoms, etc. The entire BCNM relies on you having 6 people that know their job and above average gear to win. That's not what a limit break is about.
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  8. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evandis View Post
    I am fine with it being a challenge, one that all jobs can engage in, probably should be a solo challenge, then those who actually know their jobs win, the ones who deserve it, not the ones who just hit attack and ws macros.

    Not everyone can have the top notch gear right away, it takes awhile, especially for people who have to farm their seals with randoms, etc. The entire BCNM relies on you having 6 people that know their job and above average gear to win. That's not what a limit break is about.
    aer you seriously claiming that not all jobs can win this fight? is this 6 years ago CoP all over again where we have a few foolish people convincing others that they HAVE to have certain jobs
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  9. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finuve View Post
    aer you seriously claiming that not all jobs can win this fight? is this 6 years ago CoP all over again where we have a few foolish people convincing others that they HAVE to have certain jobs
    Yes, I am. I have PLD 95, NIN 95 and THF 95. My PLD gear is too average since I just came back 3 weeks ago, so most people wont even invite me on my PLD. My NIN and THF don't DD it enough for all the burn parties so they don't want that.

    I have now been 95 MNK for less than 12 hours and I am actually getting tells for random LB invites. That's BS.
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  10. #160
    Player Finuve's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evandis View Post
    Yes, I am. I have PLD 95, NIN 95 and THF 95. My PLD gear is too average since I just came back 3 weeks ago, so most people wont even invite me on my PLD. My NIN and THF don't DD it enough for all the burn parties so they don't want that.

    I have now been 95 MNK for less than 12 hours and I am actually getting tells for random LB invites. That's BS.
    well based on that claim then in the words of Shao Kahn, Its Official, You Suck
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