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  1. #141
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    Too bad you beat a nerfed version. So I'M not impressed.

    Anyone who beat this on a standard setup is LUCKY, not skilled. It means you didn't get the back to back light skill chains plus another Asuran on top of it with-in 5 seconds on your tank. Lucky. Not skilled.
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    by that logic you should be able to just keep going until you get 'lucky" if you've been "unlucky" 10 times, and i got "lucky' my first time with my regular group.. is that really "luck"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doombringer View Post
    by that logic you should be able to just keep going until you get 'lucky" if you've been "unlucky" 10 times, and i got "lucky' my first time with my regular group.. is that really "luck"?
    And by your unintelligible logic, the guy who bought 5 lottery tickets and won and the guy who bought 500 and didn't win, was skilled not lucky. Get a clue.
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    my tanks lowest HP was 1200, learn to stun
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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finuve View Post
    my tanks lowest HP was 1200, learn to stun
    Your comment is value-less without your "tanks" gear setup.
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    except this isn't a lottery, and you're not as good at this as you seem to think.. if you really believed luck could just hand you a free win, why would you be off leveling monk to PD burn it? it's not exactly hard to "try again" roll those dice that "gave" me my "lucky" win.

    i don't even care if they gimp this fight for you. i have no vested interest in this being hard, my problem is your attitude. "i beat maat! so i'm good, you pussies didn't, i can just FEEL you didn't. therefore, anyone other than me who beat THIS lvl cap got lucky. since if i can't beat it, it cannot be legitimately beaten!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doombringer View Post
    except this isn't a lottery, and you're not as good at this as you seem to think.. if you really believed luck could just hand you a free win, why would you be off leveling monk to PD burn it? it's not exactly hard to "try again" roll those dice that "gave" me my "lucky" win.

    i don't even care if they gimp this fight for you. i have no vested interest in this being hard, my problem is your attitude. "i beat maat! so i'm good, you pussies didn't, i can just FEEL you didn't. therefore, anyone other than me who beat THIS lvl cap got lucky. since if i can't beat it, it cannot be legitimately beaten!"
    And I don't like yours and everyone else's holier than thou attitude because you managed to beat it, luck or burning it, or had the advantage of ridiculously geared tanks. Beating this BCNM doesn't mean YOU the individual are good at all. Because if it was all about how good YOU are, then shut your mouth and put the money up and go solo him.

    This is about new players, recent returning players who don't have all the top notch gear yet, and the average player who needs to go through this BCNM just to enjoy level 99. This isn't an HNM, it's not a God, it doesn't drop sweet loots, it's a limit break quest and everyone who plays this game, pays the same monthly fee as you and has every right to complete it without having to halt their forward advancement of the jobs they like to go level another one to get through it. Without having to hope they get in a good party or get into a lucky BCNM. Without having to pay some greedy group of people to do it for them. Without having to answer a shout for a LB fight with a "No thanks." because they don't have the job that particularly party wants to burn with or because their shield doesn't say Aegis or Ochain on it, etc.

    And this is just like the lottery. None of the players control the taru and when and what weapon skills he will use, how much he spams them for and how much damage they do, or what skillchain he makes. Just like the lottery, all those combinations are computer generated.

    This is BS for a limit quest fight and even after I beat it, which I will, I will still think it is BS and use my newly acquired 95 Monk to help others get over the hump too, free of charge.

    Let's talk about who is really unskilled, it's the majority of you, who needed RDM Maat gimped, who needed CoP missions gimped, who needed Abyssea and GoV exp handed on a silver platter with atmas that make you look much better than you are. Without that, all your 95 jobs would still be underleveled in the 30s and you would have your one 67 job struggling to get by in the environments that many others thrived on. So I guess those were the truly skilled people.
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    Last edited by Evandis; 12-17-2011 at 05:48 AM.

  8. #148
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    I still don't remember there being luck

    PLD WHM SMN DRK THF THF in my party, we beat the fight using a normal strat of the tank tanks everyone else fights, we just didnt WS due to the fights odd mechanics

    when the taru used hundred fists the PLD popped an olde rarab tail, when he started to run I cast stun and everyone WSed while he couldnt move

    we then chased him around for free hits and I spammed weapon bash til it got off for more free hits

    at 10% the summoner used alexander, but it was more a screw it we already won heres some insurance type of thing

    this fight is not hard, stop pretending like it is, and stop pretending that people need specific jobs to win, I can make combinations that any job can fit into (I did the same thing beating CoP doing every mission on DRK)

    just take some time and THINK and the fight is not hard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finuve View Post
    I still don't remember there being luck

    PLD WHM SMN DRK THF THF in my party, we beat the fight using a normal strat of the tank tanks everyone else fights, we just didnt WS due to the fights odd mechanics

    when the taru used hundred fists the PLD popped an olde rarab tail, when he started to run I cast stun and everyone WSed while he couldnt move

    we then chased him around for free hits and I spammed weapon bash til it got off for more free hits

    at 10% the summoner used alexander, but it was more a screw it we already won heres some insurance type of thing

    this fight is not hard, stop pretending like it is, and stop pretending that people need specific jobs to win, I can make combinations that any job can fit into (I did the same thing beating CoP doing every mission on DRK)

    just take some time and THINK and the fight is not hard
    One problem with your strategy, the taru can and does often spam light skillchains, back to back with-in seconds on top of a third Asuran. All it took was for luck to go in the other direction for you and drop your tank and the fight goes from easy and controlled to a full wipe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evandis View Post
    One problem with your strategy, the taru can and does often spam light skillchains, back to back with-in seconds on top of a third Asuran. All it took was for luck to go in the other direction for you and drop your tank and the fight goes from easy and controlled to a full wipe.
    do you remember in the other post where I mentioned stun? has abyssea really been around long enough that people forgot that when somthing strong is going off, they can stun it, i mean crazy right, if I see my tank take a lot of damage from asuran fists, maybe I'll idk immediately stun so he can get healed instead of eating another asuran fists, crazy IDK, and I have no idea how this would work because I didn't do it or anything while I did the fight
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