SE really?! really 99 cap boss this hard?!?!

[Greatguardian]

Boo freaking hoo.

If weak links are getting you killed, kick them and find stronger links. If you're a weak link yourself, have fun at level 95 or get started leveling a zerg job.

If you lose this fight 10 times in a row, think about what the common factor among all 10 of those fights is and then get back to me.

[Finuve]

Where did you get your group from?

3 from linkshell 3 from shout

[scaevola]

I think people who call this an easy fight (when not being disingenuous because they used an Ochain) aren't grasping the fact that a party fight is like a chain, and only as strong as its weakest link.

ftfy

Not that I'm saying the fight is inappropriately difficult, but I would add my voice to the chorus pointing out that this is going to cause problems for late-comers almost immediately. Took all of three weeks IIRC for the new WoE model to effectively shut off fake Empyreans on Cerberus for anyone who didn't already have one, and I have every confidence SE will drag its feet in reducing the difficulty as quickly as it's probably going to need it.

Basically, the fight's fine right now but will probably be unwinnable by February, especially if getting help/lowmanning will involve getting multiple tails only some kind of asshole would expect friends to farm on their behalf. That's what you get for wanting to play Skyrim, nerds!

[Mirabelle]

Boo freaking hoo.

If weak links are getting you killed, kick them and find stronger links. If you're a weak link yourself, have fun at level 95 or get started leveling a zerg job.

If you lose this fight 10 times in a row, think about what the common factor among all 10 of those fights is and then get back to me.

I think this is what people will do. It will become a merc'd fight for those with average players as friends with non-ideal jobs, just like ACP was after a while.
And our group only lost 3 times in a row before we said, "screw convention and go with a better job strategy."

[xbobx]

The fight is a joke if you farm the items that weaken him. If you keep losing with no weakened items, I think the answer is simple. If you lose with the weaken items then you are the worst players ever, because with 6 weakened items the taru does nothing abut run around for 12 minutes, never attacking.

[scaevola]

The fight is a joke if you farm the items that weaken him. If you keep losing with no weakened items, I think the answer is simple. If you lose with the weaken items then you are the worst players ever, because with 6 weakened items the taru does nothing abut run around for 12 minutes, never attacking.

So you can indeed use multiple tails successively?

Might be a silly question but I've been unable to find confirmation on this.


fwiw my adventures in tutori-ing involved my LS leader wanting me to tank on MNK/NIN, so me demonstrating what a bad idea that was by running in, HFing, and WSing once before getting cuffed by Something+Howling=Liquefaction. I got him down to 70% by doing that, though, so yeah multiple tails really will make this a joke.

[saevel]

The fight is a joke if you farm the items that weaken him. If you keep losing with no weakened items, I think the answer is simple. If you lose with the weaken items then you are the worst players ever, because with 6 weakened items the taru does nothing abut run around for 12 minutes, never attacking.

Problem with this is you can't do any damage while he's running around unless you bring ranged DD's (BLM/RNG/SCH). So while you can have him "running around" you yourself won't be doing much without those above jobs. They should of made two items, one being the "running around" and another just locking his WS's out. Honestly it wouldn't be bad if he didn't spam WS constantly and face rape everyone.

[HimuraKenshyn]

Problem with this is you can't do any damage while he's running around unless you bring ranged DD's (BLM/RNG/SCH). So while you can have him "running around" you yourself won't be doing much without those above jobs. They should of made two items, one being the "running around" and another just locking his WS's out. Honestly it wouldn't be bad if he didn't spam WS constantly and face rape everyone.

Ever heard of a thing called stun?

[scaevola]

or using gravity and turning off lock-on

I mean, yeah, melee might run into some problems landing weapon skills while he's running around but my biggest take-away from my one "attempt" is that he simply does not have enough health for that to matter.

Perfect Defense is basically just another tail. MNK is really good because the mechanics of the fight happen to favor it (and MNK is, of course, really good regardless), but those mechanics are eliminated by tails.

If using one gimmick to get your clear is not sufficiently practical for you, use the gimmick specifically designed for the fight.

[Dragoy]

The fight is a joke if you farm the items that weaken him. If you keep losing with no weakened items, I think the answer is simple. If you lose with the weaken items then you are the worst players ever, because with 6 weakened items the taru does nothing abut run around for 12 minutes, never attacking.

I seem to remember the battle having a time limit of 10 minutes. ^^;

I do wonder how long the effect actually is as I'm seeing everything from 30 seconds to 60 seconds and even up to 2 minutes! I'd imagine 30 seconds would be rather close to the truth... Oh well, I will get to try it out myself soon'ish. Either way, my Ninja will probably never recover from the humiliation.

This is not how the battle should be, dang it! ·~·