One million limit points for a sidegrade? What is the Dev Team's logic behind this?

[Finuve]

20 Minutes to unlock? wth? how do you get 300 points in 20 minutes including getting the nm?

considering you need to be at least 35X weaponskill, a lot of ppl will whine that they dont get them when there skill isnt even capped at level 30

though 20 minutes might be understating the whole quest, in abyssea with a partner with all regain atmas, it only takes about 20 minutes to finish the points

[Aldersyde]

I don't think we should ignore the unlock requirement, seeing as the new WSs are very easy to get, if a little time consuming.

As far as I can tell, in terms of strength it should go Skill WSs < Merit WSs < Quested WSs < Trials WSs. If this isn't the case then fine, but it seems many people just want the new WSs to be uber because they are new. That's what people mean by balance.

If only this was true!

As it stands for axe: Decimation<Cloudsplitter<Primal Rend<Ruinator<Rampage (Wassup level 175 natural skill ws, King of the Hill, forever and ever, amen).

I'm still waiting to be rewarded for the wsnm quest and unlocking my mythic (Farsha is a waste of time, working on Guttler because it's a straight up better axe). I was hoping getting another 1,000,000 xp and putting it into Ruinator would actually give me a better ws than Rampage, no matter how belated it was.

Ruinator isn't even a sidegrade. It's straight up inferior, considering i've put the effort into getting the gear and merits to make it do "large amounts of damage" (dev's words, not mine). Would you really pay for something inferior to something you had already, even if you found money insanely easy to get? That's just stupid.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

it's actually only 3

Yeah, my mind was still only 20 so it didn't see 25 for the first 2. lol

Who do you have pulling for you where you can get that much exp that fast?

Thf mostly, but sometimes pld. Altep page 1 caps at 5100 per page, mobs cap at 670, that's over 8k per pull.

[Jackstin]

I won't labour the point. It's obvious that Team XI haven't balanced their WSs well, and this is probably because they are reluctant to overpower anyone because this will mean they have to bring in masses of more difficult content. But as far as these particular WSs go, they are easy-peasy for anyone to get, so for me it makes sense that they are only fairly powerful.

[Nynja]

But as far as these particular WSs go, they are easy-peasy for anyone to get, so for me it makes sense that they are only fairly powerful.

Rampage: Skill axe to 175
Ruinator: Skill axe to 357 (yes there is a minimum skill for them), burn 100 merit points.....keep using Rampage.

[Jackstin]

That's true, I forgot about the minimum skill level required.

[Zarchery]

A can guarantee you with all the new competition for levelling and meriting these WS, that your speed of xp gain will drop considreably over the next month or so.

And then pick up again a month or two later when people have had their fill.

[Zarchery]

Open question: Does anyone actually enjoy this game? You people sure do complain a lot.

Capping ability upgrades for one stat back in the old days was 45 merit points, when getting 20,000 an hour was extraordinary. Now you get 4 to 5 times that much, and this 100 merit points is a smidge over half that. Heck, I did Bostaneiux Oubliette book burn a few days ago and was getting like 95k an hour, and that was average. Capping one new weapon skill is something you can do in an afternoon.

Maybe that's the dev team's logic; that something that doesn't take all that much effort to get shouldn't be all that great.

[Kimble]

Open question: Does anyone actually enjoy this game? You people sure do complain a lot.

Capping ability upgrades for one stat back in the old days was 45 merit points, when getting 20,000 an hour was extraordinary. Now you get 4 to 5 times that much, and this 100 merit points is a smidge over half that. Heck, I did Bostaneiux Oubliette book burn a few days ago and was getting like 95k an hour, and that was average. Capping one new weapon skill is something you can do in an afternoon

REGARDLESS of the amount of merits it takes, its rather silly that a level 99, 350+ skill WS is about the same, if not worse, then a WS you get at level 60 and 200 skill.

[Zarchery]

REGARDLESS of the amount of merits it takes, its rather silly that a level 99, 350+ skill WS is about the same, if not worse, then a WS you get at level 60 and 200 skill.

That's a different issue though. The OP was bellyaching about the number of limit points required, not the strength of the weapon skills.

How do the weapon skills you get in the mid 60s and 70s stack against the low 60s skills?

Exactly what do people want? That's what I don't understand. Posts here are always long on complaints, short on solutions. If the new WS were equal to Empyrean/Relic/Mythic WS, that wouldn't be fair to the holders of those weapons who put in a lot more effort into getting them than it takes to get these new weapon skills.

If they were equal to mid-level weapon skills, the complaints would be the same.

So what do you want from the devs? And has anyone tried asking nicely instead of the usual tactic of throwing mean spirited temper tantrums?