One million limit points for a sidegrade? What is the Dev Team's logic behind this?

[Jackstin]

we can honestly ignore the unlock requirement, outside of that its just a simple problem that a level 96 weapon skill is getting held to the standards of level 55-60(give or take) WSs

I don't think we should ignore the unlock requirement, seeing as the new WSs are very easy to get, if a little time consuming.

As far as I can tell, in terms of strength it should go Skill WSs < Merit WSs < Quested WSs < Trials WSs. If this isn't the case then fine, but it seems many people just want the new WSs to be uber because they are new. That's what people mean by balance.

[Finuve]

I don't think we should ignore the unlock requirement, seeing as the new WSs are very easy to get, if a little time consuming.

As far as I can tell, in terms of strength it should go Skill WSs < Merit WSs < Quested WSs < Trials WSs. If this isn't the case then fine, but it seems many people just want the new WSs to be uber because they are new. That's what people mean by balance.

your order doesnt make much sense, based on that it would be (using scythe as an example)

Guillotine < Entropy < Spiral Hell = Insurgency < Quietus = Catastrophe = Insurgency(With Liberator)

I believe it should be, ignoring spiral hells existence

Guillotine < Insurgency(No Liberator) < Entropy < Insurgency(With Liberator) < Catastrophe < Quietus

this is FAR from the case

[Jackstin]

your order doesnt make much sense, based on that it would be (using scythe as an example)

I'm not saying they are perfect or even anywhere near right at the moment. I'm just saying that having Merited WSs stronger than Standard WSs, but weaker than ones you have to Quest for, makes total sense. Merits in general are easily picked up, even if you are not trying to level. With levelling so easy these days, why not have a set of WSs that fill the void between Quested and Standard WSs. Of course if the beefed up the Quested and Trials WSs that would be even better!

[Olor]

I'm not saying they are perfect or even anywhere near right at the moment. I'm just saying that having Merited WSs stronger than Standard WSs, but weaker than ones you have to Quest for, makes total sense.

This only "makes total sense" in a world where half of the quested weaponskills don't suck. Cloudsplitter says hi.

[Jackstin]

This only "makes total sense" in a world where half of the quested weaponskills don't suck. Cloudsplitter says hi.

Ok well let me rephrase what I'm saying. These new merited WSs should be pretty good, an improvement on normal WSs, but not uber.

[Aldersyde]

I don't think we should ignore the unlock requirement, seeing as the new WSs are very easy to get, if a little time consuming.

As far as I can tell, in terms of strength it should go Skill WSs < Merit WSs < Quested WSs < Trials WSs. If this isn't the case then fine, but it seems many people just want the new WSs to be uber because they are new. That's what people mean by balance.

If only this was true!

As it stands for axe: Decimation<Cloudsplitter<Primal Rend<Ruinator<Rampage (Wassup level 175 natural skill ws, King of the Hill, forever and ever, amen).

I'm still waiting to be rewarded for the wsnm quest and unlocking my mythic (Farsha is a waste of time, working on Guttler because it's a straight up better axe). I was hoping getting another 1,000,000 xp and putting it into Ruinator would actually give me a better ws than Rampage, no matter how belated it was.

Ruinator isn't even a sidegrade. It's straight up inferior, considering i've put the effort into getting the gear and merits to make it do "large amounts of damage" (dev's words, not mine). Would you really pay for something inferior to something you had already, even if you found money insanely easy to get? That's just stupid.