One million limit points for a sidegrade? What is the Dev Team's logic behind this?

[Jackstin]

What's the problem with the new WSs?

They seem to be better than the standard non-quested WSs. From a new player's perspective it makes total sense that Stardiver for example is worse than Drakesbane (which does take a while to get).

[Finuve]

What's the problem with the new WSs?

They seem to be better than the standard non-quested WSs. From a new player's perspective it makes total sense that Stardiver for example is worse than Drakesbane (which does take a while to get).

the problem is exactly what you think is not the problem, now this isnt the case for all however

Entropy - weaker than guillotine
Requiescat - Weaker than vorpal blade
Ruinator - weaker than rampage
Realmrazer - weaker than hexa strike
Whatever the GAxe WS is called - weaker than Raging Rush
and probably more that are crap like this

honestly stardiver weaker than drakesbane kinda makes sense since Drakes is about the only good nyzul WS (when not used with a mythic)

[Chronofantasy]

1M limit points for 100 merits or w/e it is may only be slow/tedious once everyone has lvlled all their jobs to 99 within the first 2 weeks to a month because after that abyssea exp ptys slow down quite a bit. Some ptys will start off fast with your regular 100-200k exp per hour, but then after an hour or two more people tend to leech or decide to go afk while only two people are doing all the fighting for everyone else.

[Finuve]

we can honestly ignore the unlock requirement, outside of that its just a simple problem that a level 96 weapon skill is getting held to the standards of level 55-60(give or take) WSs

[Jackstin]

we can honestly ignore the unlock requirement, outside of that its just a simple problem that a level 96 weapon skill is getting held to the standards of level 55-60(give or take) WSs

I don't think we should ignore the unlock requirement, seeing as the new WSs are very easy to get, if a little time consuming.

As far as I can tell, in terms of strength it should go Skill WSs < Merit WSs < Quested WSs < Trials WSs. If this isn't the case then fine, but it seems many people just want the new WSs to be uber because they are new. That's what people mean by balance.

[Finuve]

I don't think we should ignore the unlock requirement, seeing as the new WSs are very easy to get, if a little time consuming.

As far as I can tell, in terms of strength it should go Skill WSs < Merit WSs < Quested WSs < Trials WSs. If this isn't the case then fine, but it seems many people just want the new WSs to be uber because they are new. That's what people mean by balance.

your order doesnt make much sense, based on that it would be (using scythe as an example)

Guillotine < Entropy < Spiral Hell = Insurgency < Quietus = Catastrophe = Insurgency(With Liberator)

I believe it should be, ignoring spiral hells existence

Guillotine < Insurgency(No Liberator) < Entropy < Insurgency(With Liberator) < Catastrophe < Quietus

this is FAR from the case

[Nynja]

doesnt matter how fast you theoretically can get 100 merits...its the fact that some of these merited WS's are inferior to lv 55-60 counterparts...

[Jackstin]

your order doesnt make much sense, based on that it would be (using scythe as an example)

I'm not saying they are perfect or even anywhere near right at the moment. I'm just saying that having Merited WSs stronger than Standard WSs, but weaker than ones you have to Quest for, makes total sense. Merits in general are easily picked up, even if you are not trying to level. With levelling so easy these days, why not have a set of WSs that fill the void between Quested and Standard WSs. Of course if the beefed up the Quested and Trials WSs that would be even better!

[Prothscar]

The quested weaponskills take 20 minutes to unlock. I don't see why they should be held above anything.

[Kimikryo]

20 Minutes to unlock? wth? how do you get 300 points in 20 minutes including getting the nm?

considering you need to be at least 35X weaponskill, a lot of ppl will whine that they dont get them when there skill isnt even capped at level 30