One million limit points for a sidegrade? What is the Dev Team's logic behind this?

[Kimble]

I don't understand why people keep repeating that all the new WS suck when that is in fact only true for 4 of them.

Most are either bad, or can be slightly better. Only about 3 or 4 are really that great. Others are situational and outdone by empy ws due to ODD.

[Caria]

1,000,000 limit points took me all of 4.5 hours to get for it. Why the complaints? When you can exp at 300-375k exp per hour in abyssea, a million isn't that hard to get.

[Greatguardian]

I finished Last Stand and Shoha the day the update went live. The fact that near every good Empyrean/Relic on the server was out exp'ing certainly helped. I was rocking 500k/hr+ for most of the time.

[Nynja]

The amount of merits pales in comparison to the fact that most of the WS's 5/5'd are either downgrades to whats readily available or sidegrades.

[Serei]

Open question: Does anyone actually enjoy this game? You people sure do complain a lot.

Capping ability upgrades for one stat back in the old days was 45 merit points, when getting 20,000 an hour was extraordinary. Now you get 4 to 5 times that much, and this 100 merit points is a smidge over half that. Heck, I did Bostaneiux Oubliette book burn a few days ago and was getting like 95k an hour, and that was average. Capping one new weapon skill is something you can do in an afternoon.

Maybe that's the dev team's logic; that something that doesn't take all that much effort to get shouldn't be all that great.

Actually, yes I do still enjoy the game, much more so since i can spend time with friends that i've made over the years ive been playing.

[saevel]

1,000,000 limit points took me all of 4.5 hours to get for it. Why the complaints? When you can exp at 300-375k exp per hour in abyssea, a million isn't that hard to get.

Don't lie.

The issue is you can only hold 30 merits at once. And each upgrade consumes an amount of merits that makes it impossible to deplete your tank.

10 -> 15 -> 20 -> 25 -> 30

After the first two upgrades you'd be running back out and resetting your monster count and gold light. Then each upgrade would entail you to reset it again along with left over merits that you couldn't really use. Capping STR and HP/MP had my running into this problem.

1 million isn't that hard to get, but it's not something you'll be doing that fast either.

[Agetos]

I'm going to keep this short and to the point.

• With a few exceptions, most of the new "Meritable Weaponskills" are sidegrades to current available weaponskills when merited to 5/5.
• It takes 100 merit points to upgrade one weaponskill to 5/5. That is one million limit points.
• Considering they are weaker than current alternatives if merited to 4/5 or less, it is pointless to merit them any lower than 5/5.

The question I would like the community reps to forward to the Dev Team is pretty straight forward:
Considering the disclaimer displayed before logging into the game, who on the Development Team thought it would be a good idea for players to spend time gathering one million limit points for a weaponskill that is no better than current alternatives, and why?

We have received comments from the development team about their goals for some of the weaponskills. They openly admit that they want them to be side-grades. The question is, how can they justify one million limit points for a sidegrade?

Finished Ruinator the second day after update, took only 4 merit dumps hardly a difficult thing to do, and for jobs that don't have empyreans weapons like my beast it's good to see a new ws that can beat rampage in dmg and looks.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

1 million isn't that hard to get, but it's not something you'll be doing that fast either.

Then you're doing it wrong, because 4.5 hours is a little on teh long side. You're probably leaving the moment you have 10/15/20/25/30 instead of capping each time. You lose your chain you know.

[Psxpert2011]

I'm going to keep this short and to the point.

The question I would like the community reps to forward to the Dev Team is pretty straight forward:
Considering the disclaimer displayed before logging into the game, who on the Development Team thought it would be a good idea for players to spend time gathering one million limit points for a weaponskill that is no better than current alternatives, and why?

We have received comments from the development team about their goals for some of the weaponskills. They openly admit that they want them to be side-grades. The question is, how can they justify one million limit points for a sidegrade?

Oh please, you could've made it shorter... we're very busy adventurers. It's about time the FFxi DEV team do something to piss off the NOOBs. If it were me, I'd make it 3mil so you'd quit the game.

Calm down, you could go in a corner and cry alone(unless you have friends to cry with). If I can't make 100 merits after they kindly upgraded 20/20 to 30/30 merits you can hold, maybe I don't deserve WS upgrades... should'nt waste my time with so much other things to do in this MMORPG.

[SpankWustler]

I don't understand why people keep repeating that all the new WS suck when that is in fact only true for 4 of them.

My problem is with which weaponskills are disappointing. I feel like the Development Bros worked hard to assure average-to-above-average weaponskills for weapons that only had average-to-above-average options thus far, such as Polearm, Scythe, and Axe. When I try to ascertain why, I can only do a Jackie Chan impression.

Why shouldn't every weapon have a Jishnu's Radiance/Ukko's Fury/Victory Smite/Tachi: Shoha level weaponskill attainable through some means, whatever those means are?

Oh please, you could've made it shorter... we're very busy adventurers. It's about time the FFxi DEV team do something to piss off the NOOBs. If it were me, I'd make it 3mil so you'd quit the game.

Calm down, you could go in a corner and cry alone(unless you have friends to cry with). If I can't make 100 merits after they kindly upgraded 20/20 to 30/30 merits you can hold, maybe I don't deserve WS upgrades... should'nt waste my time with so much other things to do in this MMORPG.

You have missed the main point of this topic.