Quote Originally Posted by Chriscoffey View Post
I am trying to understand how you can even come across that I'm a hypocrite. The example i always make of your type of players are the ones that were still taking 30 minutes to an hour to beat Fafnir when any good end game LS i was in did it in mere minutes. Your group uses people as cannon fodder to beat something then complain it's too hard knowing full well others are doing the enemies just fine.

You expect entitlement to everything even things of which you apparently lack the ability to try to understand better to kill. So what you have so far is calling me a hypocrite because my group will try to find the best approach to a mob to kill compared to your group saying all things should be just zerged down. I think the hypocrite is your groups logic.
You know why your ls could down nms in minutes while it took others 30? Experience. Preparation. Preparation in gear, research, strategy, making that strategy happen by bringing the proper jobs in proper amounts. You know, looking for the easiest, most efficient, hassle-free way to kill mobs and get loot.

Unless you started the game very recently, everyone started by throwing bodies at things because there was a time when people didn't understand the game's mechanics and had absolute trash gear. I remember when nms were taken down with an aerial armor rotation for the tank. I remember when accepting a wipe from kirin's astral flow was pretty standard. But tactics change. Gear gets better. Now people zerg Kirin in 2 minutes or less. That's not people shouting for easier mobs, that's people getting better at the game and actually progressing so that their characters are stronger.

Your ls wasn't blessed by some MMORPG god that allowed you to exceed the power of mere scrubs. Your group worked towards that point by getting better gear, putting effort into leveling proper jobs and merits, and doing research. You (and everyone really) were standing on the backs of people who came before. Yes, you looked for the easiest way to do to it, like most everyone else did. I think the real hypocritical part comes when 'leet groups look down on the 'scrubs' taking 30 minutes to kill a mob, when there was a time your group was likely at the same stage of starting out.