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    Player saevel's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    Only downside I've noticed with stpt/stal is that it can sometimes take more time to locate a target and run close to them if they're out of magic range. Still beats losing the target all the time, though, but i think it would be better if SE eventually figured out a way to not lose target when changing gear.
    Running to someone who is out of range is the same regardless of targeting method. And I don't see how your spending extra time to target them compared to Tab Tab Tab Shift Tab. Only targeting system that is faster is the F1~F6 for party members, but that doesn't work for alliance members which is what we're talking about.
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    I was talking about party targeting, because I saw that being brought up earlier in the thread. F1-6ing and locking on with "h" will let me instantly run in the direction of the player, meaning I won't have to actually look for where he is before i decide which way to run. It's an advantage targeting the "old" way has over stpt, but this advantage, as i said, doesn't outweight the advantage of not losing target all the time.
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    /ta <stal>
    /lockon
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiko View Post
    /ta <stal>
    /lockon
    Hmm. I'll have to try that.

    If you do:
    /ta <stal>
    /lockon
    /ma "Cure" <t>

    Will it still keep target if they blink (at work, can't try)?
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    Player hiko's Avatar
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    no, only replace
    F1-6ing and locking on with "h" will let me instantly run in the direction of the player, meaning I won't have to actually look for where he is before i decide which way to run.
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    Player Babekeke's Avatar
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    Hit F2-6 for the party member that you want to target, hit h to check the direction you're running, then hit the /ma "Cure" <stal> macro. Now if they gear swap while you're running to them, you already have the arrow by their name in alliance list so if they gear swap, you will lose your /lockon but don't have to re-target.

    When using <stal> the arrow will start next to your own name if you are targetting a mob/NPC/nothing however, if you are targetting someone in your alliance, it will start next to their name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freakeomi View Post
    Use Alt + F1-F6 and Ctrl + F1-F6 to target other parties in your alliance.
    Does that work without third-party tools? I'm looking at xbox users, specifically.
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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasandaro View Post
    Does that work without third-party tools? I'm looking at xbox users, specifically.
    Those are just keystrokes. You do use a keyboard right? or do they make those wacky mini keyboard controllers for 360 now? I remember they had something like that for PS2. It was like a giant controller with a mini keyboard in the middle.
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    Player Greatguardian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Those are just keystrokes. You do use a keyboard right? or do they make those wacky mini keyboard controllers for 360 now? I remember they had something like that for PS2. It was like a giant controller with a mini keyboard in the middle.
    No, he's right. Ctrl/Alt F1-F6 targeting is a function of Windower binding. It's loaded in init.txt by default. Xbox, PS2, and non-Windower PC users can't use the additional keys. There are chat commands for alliance targeting if you want to be super tedious, though - otherwise, the Windower binds wouldn't work in the first place.

    See for yourself,

    // *** ALLIANCE TARGET KEYS ***
    // This lets you push Alt+F1-6 and Ctrl+F1-6 to to target Alliance members.
    bind ^f1 input /ta <a10>
    bind ^f2 input /ta <a11>
    bind ^f3 input /ta <a12>
    bind ^f4 input /ta <a13>
    bind ^f5 input /ta <a14>
    bind ^f6 input /ta <a15>
    bind !f1 input /ta <a20>
    bind !f2 input /ta <a21>
    bind !f3 input /ta <a22>
    bind !f4 input /ta <a23>
    bind !f5 input /ta <a24>
    bind !f6 input /ta <a25>


    As you can see, the syntax is similar to the <p1> - <p5> syntax for party targeting. <a10> targets Alliance party 1, member 0. <a24> targets Alliance party 2, member 4. Remember that members are enumerated from 0-5 instead of 1-6 when using direct chatline targeting. Members are listed sequentially as they appear in your party list. Eg, the third person on the list of your party is <p2>.

    Cumbersome, but that's what it is.
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    Player user201108211515's Avatar
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    the correct way to whm macro:to cure anyone w/o even targeting them

    you will need 3 pallets to make this work. Making use of ctrl+shift+#(1-3) 1 palet for each party of the alli.

    macros for alt and tab #1-6 will be deadicated to party members 1-6 as they are seen listed in party/all window. you always being at the top you your pts list.

    pallet 1 your party
    ctrl+shift+1

    crrl 1 - /ma "Cure V" <p0> (or <me>)
    crrl 2 - /ma "Cure V" <p1>
    crrl 3 - /ma "Cure V" <p2>
    crrl 4 - /ma "Cure V" <p3>
    crrl 5 - /ma "Cure V" <p4>
    crrl 6 - /ma "Cure V" <p5>

    alt 1 - /ma "Cure VI" <p0> (or <me>)
    alt 2 - /ma "Cure VI" <p1>
    alt 3 - /ma "Cure VI" <p2>
    alt 4 - /ma "Cure VI" <p3>
    alt 5 - /ma "Cure VI" <p4>
    alt 6 - /ma "Cure VI" <p5>

    pallet 2 party 2(top alli party)
    ctrl+shift+2

    crrl 1 - /ma "Cure V" <a10>
    crrl 2 - /ma "Cure V" <a11>
    crrl 3 - /ma "Cure V" <a12>
    crrl 4 - /ma "Cure V" <a13>
    crrl 5 - /ma "Cure V" <a14>
    crrl 6 - /ma "Cure V" <a15>

    alt 1 - /ma "Cure VI" <a10>
    alt 2 - /ma "Cure VI" <a11>
    alt 3 - /ma "Cure VI" <a12>
    alt 4 - /ma "Cure VI" <a13>
    alt 5 - /ma "Cure VI" <a14>
    alt 6 - /ma "Cure VI" <a15>

    pallet 3 party 3(middle alli party)
    ctrl+shift+3

    crrl 1 - /ma "Cure V" <a20>
    crrl 2 - /ma "Cure V" <a21>
    crrl 3 - /ma "Cure V" <a22>
    crrl 4 - /ma "Cure V" <a23>
    crrl 5 - /ma "Cure V" <a24>
    crrl 6 - /ma "Cure V" <a25>

    alt 1 - /ma "Cure VI" <a20>
    alt 2 - /ma "Cure VI" <a21>
    alt 3 - /ma "Cure VI" <a22>
    alt 4 - /ma "Cure VI" <a23>
    alt 5 - /ma "Cure VI" <a24>
    alt 6 - /ma "Cure VI" <a25>

    Using thease it becomes a visual reacation.

    ex: 4th person in party3 needs cure. ctrl+shift+3 > let go of shift > hit #4. person gets cure w/o ever targeting them.

    tank in your pt needs cure. hes 2 on your list. alt+shift+1> let go of shift > hit #2 he gets cure.
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