WOE needs full revamp again

[Tankster33]

WoE makes me extremely mad nowadays. I made a Daka+2 early this year and got it in a week grinding. Now I cannot even grind because there is not anyone there. I am not going to change my Real Life schedule to play with Japanese people in order to do WoE. Screw the change and screw WoE period. Empy here I come!

[Ophannus]

WoE is exceedingly hard to do when mobs kill everyone in a single TP move, melees deal like 10-50 damage per hit and mobs have things like "Enpetrify" or "Endoom". The ONLY way to beat WoE is literally to spam pet jobs like SMN and BST because players die way too fast even with temps. Do mobs really have to be so damned powerful? I mean the giant Hahava in one of the later confluxes. WS do like 100-200 dmg to him which barely takes off 1% while SMN and BST do like 1-2k damage from Blood Pacts. A single TP attack does like 4k damage to me making it completely unsurvivable. What are we supposed to do except keep Reraising and hitting a few times before wiping again. That's no fun. And all for some damned logs or ores.

[Eri]

Oh By the Way I Just got a Devious Die from #13 So the new Walks do drop these too.

[Concerned4FFxi]

WOE went downhill when they added RR, they should have made it so that the lower tiers could be low manned, the middle tiers 6-8manned, and the higher tiers needing an almost full alliance. The moves shouldnt be doing 4k ws damage every 20sec. This only makes two types of game play availabel as mentioned, either pet jobs or rr/attack/die/rr/attack/die. I will admit I had fun playing as a smn in WOE before the auto-rr, but other than that i dont see how the dying every 20 seconds could be fun. Maybe it should be called "Walk of the Beastmasters" or "Echoes of the Summoners"

[Eri]

WOE went downhill when they added RR, they should have made it so that the lower tiers could be low manned, the middle tiers 6-8manned, and the higher tiers needing an almost full alliance. The moves shouldnt be doing 4k ws damage every 20sec. This only makes two types of game play availabel as mentioned, either pet jobs or rr/attack/die/rr/attack/die. I will admit I had fun playing as a smn in WOE before the auto-rr, but other than that i dont see how the dying every 20 seconds could be fun. Maybe it should be called "Walk of the Beastmasters" or "Echoes of the Summoners"

I've seen a Mnk in full DT Gear with a Whm Tank the Boss for over 10 Mins. Its Possible. On a Sidenote. all the Summoners are a Part of the Problem. Theiy feed the Mob so mutch TP no wonder you die quickly.
Maybe a Limit ? Like "Only 6 Persons of the same Job can Enter?"

[FrankReynolds]

I've seen a Mnk in full DT Gear with a Whm Tank the Boss for over 10 Mins. Its Possible. On a Sidenote. all the Summoners are a Part of the Problem. Theiy feed the Mob so mutch TP no wonder you die quickly.
Maybe a Limit ? Like "Only 6 Persons of the same Job can Enter?"

The dragon boss in 7 just spams TP moves every 10 seconds regardless of tp feed ; ;

[Eri]

I know that one sucks.... never found a way to life on meele lol.

[Ihnako]

..They feed the Mob so mutch TP no wonder you die quickly. ...

Um... Every job feeds TP regardless of it's subtile blow.
I've seen a lot of good geared people meeleing those bastards and only feeding TP cause they can't outdamage a mage who feeds less TP per damage points dealed.

It would be interesting how the new WS will change the setups. Maybe the SAMs will come? *g*

[Eri]

Even IF there was a few meeles with subtile blow they would die quickly doe to 20 Avatars slapping the mob.
I'd vote to add Subtile blow to Smn and Bst pets like it was added to Puppets.

[FrankReynolds]

It still wouldn't change the fact that the mob uses TP moves when ever it wants regardless of TP gain.