Still no decent elemental WS for RDM that uses MAB?

[Neisan_Quetz]

Aside from Sam/Maybe Blade: To hybrid WS I'm fairly certain their really isn't another elemental WS that's multihit (I'm not counting Atonement since that is modded by Enmity).

SE already stated they have no intention of fixing Requiescat's Attack penalty so I'm not holding my breath out for that.

Although it would be fairly rare I would prefer a strong physical WS with Murgleis to benefit from the Occaisonally attacks 2-3 times effect.

[ManaKing]

Aside from Sam/Maybe Blade: To hybrid WS I'm fairly certain their really isn't another elemental WS that's multihit (I'm not counting Atonement since that is modded by Enmity).

SE already stated they have no intention of fixing Requiescat's Attack penalty so I'm not holding my breath out for that.

Although it would be fairly rare I would prefer a strong physical WS with Murgleis to benefit from the Occaisonally attacks 2-3 times effect.

I know what you mean on the Occasionally attacks 2-3 times being nicely suited for physical WSs. But it also makes TPing a breeze. Death Blossom is already a 3 hit WS so you can technically hit 8 attacks without even having an offhand during WS. Is it going to be beat out max damage on CDC though? I don't think it will. I'm pretty sure dual wield and some decent double attack and crit gear is still going to win in max damage and probably is going to win in consistency as well because of how well double attack and crit WSs work out.

If they would adjust the base multiplier for Death Blossom to 2.0 from 1.125 then we could have an actual race on WSs.

It wouldn't fix my discomfort that RDM is part mage and we don't show it when we WS. We don't even get access to any of the good Elemental WSs without picking a sub job. The reason I'm looking for an elemental WS is that physical WSs are inconsistent in their damage. They almost always deal better damage than Elemental WSs because of how poorly most Elemental WSs are designed, but crit and double attack are not factors you can count on outside of aby, even in the best WSs sets for a RDM. If we had a well designed Elemental WS we could rock the house on damage in a way that makes sense for a part mage to do so.

[saevel]

I know what you mean on the Occasionally attacks 2-3 times being nicely suited for physical WSs. But it also makes TPing a breeze. Death Blossom is already a 3 hit WS so you can technically hit 8 attacks without even having an offhand during WS. Is it going to be beat out max damage on CDC though? I don't think it will. I'm pretty sure dual wield and some decent double attack and crit gear is still going to win in max damage and probably is going to win in consistency as well because of how well double attack and crit WSs work out.

If they would adjust the base multiplier for Death Blossom to 2.0 from 1.125 then we could have an actual race on WSs.

It wouldn't fix my discomfort that RDM is part mage and we don't show it when we WS. We don't even get access to any of the good Elemental WSs without picking a sub job. The reason I'm looking for an elemental WS is that physical WSs are inconsistent in their damage. They almost always deal better damage than Elemental WSs because of how poorly most Elemental WSs are designed, but crit and double attack are not factors you can count on outside of aby, even in the best WSs sets for a RDM. If we had a well designed Elemental WS we could rock the house on damage in a way that makes sense for a part mage to do so.

Well DA is something we can get large amounts of by easy gear and a single spell.

Req doesn't touch CDC, it's barely on par with vorpal. 100% MND and 5 hits is nice, but -20% attack pretty much wipes out it's damage potential.

[Mirage]

Death Blossom is already a 3 hit WS so you can technically hit 8 attacks without even having an offhand during WS.

I'm not entirely sure how you get to 8 there. Could you elaborate?

[saevel]

I'm not entirely sure how you get to 8 there. Could you elaborate?

I have no idea how he's getting 8 without off hand on Req. 5 hit + 1 off hand = 6 and you can get up to two DA's during WS.

@468 enhancing magic I have +16% DA. Brutal and Atheling brings it to 24% DA, not sure if I have anymore +DA in my gear sets, don't think so. So a single DA happening every WS is going to be pretty common and a second one isn't going to be too uncommon. But you can only get 2 DA's or 1 TA per WS, so single handed we're looking at 7 hits maximum not 8.

Anyhow the -20% attack pretty much ruins your damage on anything T or higher.