Why no Nuke love??

[Retsujo]

I had originally read Cids' clever wordplay to imply that WHM getting Banish 4 would be akin to RDM (and SCH) getting Cure V. Of course SE specifically told us that RDM (or SCH) will not be getting Cure V, however, this is where the difference lies.

WHMs were given Banish4 and ga-3 on the test server for a month or so, only to have it removed with this quote:



AND



The implication is that we will be getting them eventually~



*Until I can be bothered downloading FFXIcalc again I'll be referring to http://members.shaw.ca/pizza_steve/c...alculator.html

We all understand that the Banish spells are coming. That's what this thread is supposed to be about. What I was trying to imply, which you missed both in my post and the guy I was backing up, is that the calculations and follow through of other jobs using Cure V has nothing to do with Banish IV or ga III. It's completely derailing the thread, and there are other threads it can be discussed in.

WHMs wanting Banish IV already, instead of waiting, because it's been several levels since our last Banish spell.
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Other jobs wanting Cure V because it's been several levels since their last Cure spell.

It has nothing to do with the complications or possible outcomes of Cure V on other jobs. It was just a sarcastic jab at the similarity. Let's stop with the Cure V and get back on the Banishes

[Krysten]

Agreed its common knowledge that not every WHM wants to play it robot like everyone else and they already have given us nukes all i want is them to continue down that. not asking to be a Blm they do need change dmg output for Banish IV tho (since it was i the test server at one point) it would have do be substancial over III (think the differance from Blizz III vs Blizz IV)

[Badieh]

In addition to Banish 4, 5, Banishga 3, and Banishara, they also should change the damage output for cure spells on the undead. I think what players are looking for now that has changed from the beginning of FF11 is more flexibility in each jobs. SE seems to want to maintain the "1 job has 1 specific role" while players want "1 job to have many roles."

[saevel]

They need to just add Banish IV / V and Banishga III already. Put them on the same level as Aero tier nukes. It won't turn WHM into anything remotely resembling a nuking job, their recasts are too long for that to happen. What it does is give WHM a little more versatility, there are some NM's that are weak to holy damage and this would be useful on them.

And in the end, it's White Mage, the masters of White Magic. It's only fitting they get some sort of light element nuke.

[raps1355]

I dont understand why ppl are frightened if whm got stronger nukes for the light element, after all they are supposed to be the light mage. Its one element out of 8 yet most other magic able jobs have access to the other 7. The banish series is also bad mp for damage and recast times are not great either. Even if banish 5 were to do 2k damage that would be abyssmal compared to a blm who can push out 7k damage not to mention alternating several elements.

[Horadrim]

In addition to Banish 4, 5, Banishga 3, and Banishara, they also should change the damage output for cure spells on the undead. I think what players are looking for now that has changed from the beginning of FF11 is more flexibility in each jobs. SE seems to want to maintain the "1 job has 1 specific role" while players want "1 job to have many roles."

Exactly... to the extreme detriment of jobs that desperately need alternative roles... like PUP.

[Krysten]

Still waiting on those Nukes!! cmon SE let us WHM have some fun!! MORE LIGHT NUKING SPELLS!!!!

[MDenham]

Banishga III... and Holyja (400MP, casts in like 2sec, AoE and obviously works like the BLM -ja spells other than being light element).

That's all I ask for in the way of new WHM nukes. (And then throw Stoneskin II into the game with like a 1000HP cap.)

[Krysten]

Banishja would be more realistic seeing holy always been a single hit. they really need let whm have some fun with new light nukes lol.

[Blah]

Gosh I've been thinking about it and I...I think you guys have a point. Overall white mage isn't just suppose to be king/queen of healing magic they're suppose to be king/queen of divine magic. Which should most definitely be much more than just banish and holy. Why they have only that is beyond me. *scratches head*