New Job Trait: Limber ("Tactical Evade")

[Thoraeon]

The one problem I see with Limber is this:

In the cases of Shield Mastery, Tactical Parry, and Tactical Guard there is direct contact between your shield/weapon/fist and the enemy which is where the TP comes from. In the case of Evasion, there is no contact thus nowhere for the TP to come from.

It would be cool, but unfortunately, with how TP works, it does not make sense.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Is there even more then one tier of tac. parry?

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Is there even more then one tier of tac. parry?

Yeah, goes up to tier IV. Which only DNC obtains. So LOL at people wanting to give DNC even more with this when they only have B+ Evasion over the A+ and A- jobs. It's already bad enough they have tier IV with their crappy B Parrying.

[Asymptotic]

Yeah, goes up to tier IV. Which only DNC obtains. So LOL at people wanting to give DNC even more with this when they only have B+ Evasion over the A+ and A- jobs. It's already bad enough they have tier IV with their crappy B Parrying.

Well you know, DNC Is the most TP reliant job. So yeah, more ways to obtain TP isn't really a stretch.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Well you know, DNC Is the most TP reliant job. So yeah, more ways to obtain TP isn't really a stretch.

I'm not disagreeing on them getting the ability, persay, I do think if added they should get lesser tiers to THF and NIN. That said, Evasion activates far more often when compared to Shield (bar Ochain) and Parrying so they'd need to be really careful with the trait.

[Asymptotic]

Evasion activates far more often when compared to Shield (bar Ochain) and Parrying so they'd need to be really careful with the trait.

Yeah, I set the activation level pretty low for that reason. It would be entirely broken with a high activation rate.

[Asymptotic]

The one problem I see with Limber is this:

In the cases of Shield Mastery, Tactical Parry, and Tactical Guard there is direct contact between your shield/weapon/fist and the enemy which is where the TP comes from. In the case of Evasion, there is no contact thus nowhere for the TP to come from.

It would be cool, but unfortunately, with how TP works, it does not make sense.

Well, we don't actually know how TP works exactly or what it is, even. You also get TP from getting hit by a spell, and then there's Occult Acumen, which allows you to gain TP when casting an offensive spell. You can "spirit" it up through meditate or a spell, or use the energy built up from successful dance moves to produce it (some of which - No Foot Rise - are movements which imply no contact with the enemy). Sometimes, it just regenerates on its own. You also gain TP from a ranged attack, and you never come into direct contact with the target there, either.

Just like HP/MP, there appear to be a wide variety of sources where TP can come from. It's obviously some sort of "spiritual" energy which can be charged and discharged, and I see no reason why it might not come from executing a particularly intricate evade.

[Insaniac]

If this came out and THF didn't have the highest tier I would crush my own head into a diamond.

[Karbuncle]

I think THF/PUP SHould get the highest Tiers (IV), DNC up to III, and NIN II.

PUP Has second highest base evasion in the game with their Job Traits counted (I think!), DNC is close behind, and NIN is slightly further down the stretch due to no natural EVA bonus traits.

But yah, The idea is pretty decent... as far as "Being hit for TP", Dodging an attack can give you a tactical advantage... so there is some foundation for TP For Dodging. However small it may be

[Krashport]

Yeah I would say Evasion activates far to often myself, maybe just give them a "Auto-Regain" and get it over with like when SE gave PLD Auto-refresh.

Edit: or you can finish the WoTg missions.
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Moonshade_Earring

"Regain+1" isn't so bad!