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    Hello again. I spent the last 30+ hours of game play this week doing GOV page 8 in the maze of Shakhrami on mobs 86-88 in order to skill up odd jobs that I don't play, break mythic latents, and level my adventuring fellow from 83-90 (currently 85).

    While there I opened 50+ locked chests (my bazaar mule is overloaded with 1-2k items now) and the best drop I got was an nq prism cape, which is so out dated it's laughable because I sold my hq ages ago. I only missed 2 chests the whole time, I'm very good at guessing locked chests and it's fun to open them.

    The majority of drops where hi-potion+1-2, a few remedies, an elixir+1 or three, some junk ore, a log, etc.

    I'm not asking for wizzan grip in every chest, or from every zone for that matter. I chose this zone because it was the level I wanted to target for my fellow and the mobs to do pages where centered in the same easy access area.

    What I am asking for are better average drops. Something that can be npc'd for around 7k, like abyssea augmented drops, or items that sell ok on the AH such as angel skin (10-20k, dragon meat 20k). If you added these drops to VW also, it would help the general complaint.

    Look, you already made abyssea, admiting it broke the game is great, and saying you are going away frpm that mentality is awesome but under no circumstance can you go back to old FFXI entirely or your going to continue to lose players.

    Please understand that because of abyssea, people are unwilling to accept 100 logs from VW, and 100 elixirs from GOV locked chests. Again, I don't care there's not a great item in every chest or every zone, but elixirs and logs don't qualify. Again, doesn't have to be -6pdt/mdt dark rings either, but something better than logs and remedies.

    You can't go back in time, while the game's future will be more like old FFXI, it can't be 100% like old XI.

    Consider that farming any abyssea zone for a few hours yields majorly greater rewards than
    30+ hours of book burning mobs 86+ and we have a problem here.

    edit: fellow is currently 85, will mention about this is bug section, 90 cap complete but can not advance post 85. More testing is needed.
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    Last edited by Concerned4FFxi; 12-09-2011 at 06:33 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard
    The reason I keep coming back to XI as opposed to other MMOs is because of the content's lastability. While it is true that many pieces are outdated with each patch, to this day there are many old pieces of gear that are still near top-tier if not the top-tier. It encourages you to explore the whole breadth of content rather than asking you to bumrush and bypass all the old content just so you can grind the newer content. This is a model used by other MMOs such as WoW, and while I don't have anything against people that enjoy this model, if I wanted to play an MMO with that model there are many, many games vast superior to XI in terms of mechanics and especially customer service that offer such a model.

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    Well see you are forgetting the differences between Abyssea and using GoV

    In abyssea you use stones for time. You have to kill them in a specific manner to get the chest of choice as well as time to stay in the zone, and you are restricted by the time you can spend in their if you don't keep time chest upkeep high

    GoV on the other hand is open, you can grab a page and spam it without having to run back to the book, you have a chance to get augments with each completion and you can stay there for as long as you like. Which means you could technically make a mule character that never leaves the zone and thus has all the possible buffs possible and increase your odds of chest drops.

    Basically the reason why they won't change it is because Abyssea has more restriction compared to GoV. Because of those restriction of course the chest drops would be better. If GoV had the same loot mentality then perhaps people would op to go to GoV to get the NPC items since it's worth more then in abyssea which would be imbalanced. If you want NPC items that fetch a lot of gil go to Abyssea, but if your objective is to obtain the special item in the zone then just accept GoV for what it is lol.
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    Read the thread homie, I didn't ask for the same loot mentality, I asked for something better than an nq prism cape and logs from VW, if I where in another zone I'd have gotten an item like Wizzan grip that sells for 500-1million+, all i'm asking for is somthing more than remedies and logs from VW and chests. the fact that stuff like wizzan grips drop from GOV chests destroys your case. I've done GOV before, I've gotten the skill up ring and the fishing belt. I'm asking for slightly better average drops, or better uncommon drops.
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    Last edited by Concerned4FFxi; 12-08-2011 at 02:06 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard
    The reason I keep coming back to XI as opposed to other MMOs is because of the content's lastability. While it is true that many pieces are outdated with each patch, to this day there are many old pieces of gear that are still near top-tier if not the top-tier. It encourages you to explore the whole breadth of content rather than asking you to bumrush and bypass all the old content just so you can grind the newer content. This is a model used by other MMOs such as WoW, and while I don't have anything against people that enjoy this model, if I wanted to play an MMO with that model there are many, many games vast superior to XI in terms of mechanics and especially customer service that offer such a model.

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    Final Fantasy XI is becoming more and more like an offline RPG only difference is, Final Fantasy XI has a monthly subscription which is mostly outdated, I personally think this game should get a price cut. "$6.99" a month and mules are free!
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    I just want stuff to make sense, an nq prism cape does not, the logs from vw and remedies 99% of the chests do not. It's filler, that's why I skip episodes of naruto and when they get done the filler bs i watch it.

    PS- i consider the 5 remedies I got the good uncommon drops, compared to the elixirs and hi-potions which seem more common. Even chests in the Cape, pre GOV, have better drops. Go forward not backwards please SE.
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    Last edited by Concerned4FFxi; 12-08-2011 at 02:14 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard
    The reason I keep coming back to XI as opposed to other MMOs is because of the content's lastability. While it is true that many pieces are outdated with each patch, to this day there are many old pieces of gear that are still near top-tier if not the top-tier. It encourages you to explore the whole breadth of content rather than asking you to bumrush and bypass all the old content just so you can grind the newer content. This is a model used by other MMOs such as WoW, and while I don't have anything against people that enjoy this model, if I wanted to play an MMO with that model there are many, many games vast superior to XI in terms of mechanics and especially customer service that offer such a model.

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    lol. just got the fishering belt, 85+. As happy as I am and i don't fish, please give a slight booast to uncommon drops in locked gov chests and vw, no more nq capes that are outdated, thank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard
    The reason I keep coming back to XI as opposed to other MMOs is because of the content's lastability. While it is true that many pieces are outdated with each patch, to this day there are many old pieces of gear that are still near top-tier if not the top-tier. It encourages you to explore the whole breadth of content rather than asking you to bumrush and bypass all the old content just so you can grind the newer content. This is a model used by other MMOs such as WoW, and while I don't have anything against people that enjoy this model, if I wanted to play an MMO with that model there are many, many games vast superior to XI in terms of mechanics and especially customer service that offer such a model.

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    I'd rather they just got rid of the stupid potion brown chests. I want to punch my screen every time I waste my time cracking it open and get greeted with a stupid hi-potion +1.
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    at the very least... let us peak through the cracks to get a hint at whats in it. If we see potion bottles, we know it's not worth our time. Let us destroy it for a spot of gil or something (think Abyssea routine). Heck, even a piece of lumber that is stackable might be more useful....lol. Regular lumber for crafting (oak, chestnut, elm...even Maple) still fetches a price on our server that might make it worth listing (or craft something with for that matter).
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