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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    The perspective of another race can be experienced by creating another character. The "benefits" of another race should not be allowed to be gained- people would change their race like they change their job, just for that tiny miniscule edge it would give them. I do not want to see people going "oh, I want to play BLM full time for a while, so I'll change to Tarutaru. Next month, I'll focus on Warrior and switch to Elvaan." Even though as described earlier, most racial characteristic differences are trivial at best.

    It's a "common MMORPG feature" that shouldn't exist. making your physical characteristics and name unchangable is a deterrent to doing silly things with them and encourages you to make your choices carefully.
    I don't really see how changing from haste headgear to +15 strength instantly for a WS is just fine, but changing from hume to taru once a month for 40 mp, and 7 int or w/e is game breaking. I really don't get the whole "people need to put more care into creating a character in an MMORPG" thing either. Peoples tastes change. Leveling / missions / quests / gear / etc. takes way too long for the whole "make a new character" thing to hold weight. It's not like you can run around cursing and swearing, and ripping people off, and then change to a taru and get away with it all. I mean even if you could swap races like you swap gear, it still wouldn't allow you nearly the level of advantage that gear swaps offer.

    All I'm hearing in here is either:

    "I put up with a lot of crap because of my race, and I want other people to suffer just like me."

    or

    "I like my race, and so should you."

    A preference for cat women, or midgets in a video game shouldn't be a serious decision that will affect your enjoyment for years.
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    Last edited by FrankReynolds; 12-13-2011 at 09:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    The perspective of another race can be experienced by creating another character. The "benefits" of another race should not be allowed to be gained- people would change their race like they change their job, just for that tiny miniscule edge it would give them. I do not want to see people going "oh, I want to play BLM full time for a while, so I'll change to Tarutaru. Next month, I'll focus on Warrior and switch to Elvaan." Even though as described earlier, most racial characteristic differences are trivial at best.

    It's a "common MMORPG feature" that shouldn't exist. making your physical characteristics and name unchangable is a deterrent to doing silly things with them and encourages you to make your choices carefully.

    The only kind of physical feature change I would ever support is if new races/faces were added, allowing a ONE TIME recustomization so as not to punish everyone who made their characters before said new stuff came out.
    You are getting the completely wrong idea of this whole suggestion.

    Changing jobs and having the ability to change your race will be two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT concepts, since you would be able to change your job every 2 seconds whereas changing your race would be every X amount of months or even a One-Time offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pewpew View Post
    I agree, this could easily be implemented on the title screen same way it prompts you to change your name when you server change. There is no reason they couldn't implement this, nor shouldn't.
    Do you know what Role Play is? Give a decent and justified Role Play for changing race. This is a MMORPG game, the last 3 words meaning Role Play Game, there needs to be a story behind it, how did you suddenly manage to become a different race. SE probably could implement this easily, I won't deny that, but how could you fit it in with the RP without it becoming stupid..... I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murzade View Post
    Do you know what Role Play is? Give a decent and justified Role Play for changing race. This is a MMORPG game, the last 3 words meaning Role Play Game, there needs to be a story behind it, how did you suddenly manage to become a different race. SE probably could implement this easily, I won't deny that, but how could you fit it in with the RP without it becoming stupid..... I don't think so.

    I'm roleplaying a taru.... now I'm roleplaying a galka...... see what I did there? The story doesn't have to change at all. In fact if that's really what you want, they could add a story line that explains the whole thing. That's how RPGs work. However, 99.9% of peoples play time is spent doing things like XP, HNM, VoidWatch, Dynamis, SEA, Abyssea NM farming etc. which are repeatable, and have very little story involved past the initial fight and or entrance. Being able to summon celestial Avatars one minute and then becoming a ninja and completely forgetting how you did it the next minute has far more problems with continuity than a simple story line that ends with "joey learned the ability to change his appearance!".
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    I'd like it too. I picked a hume back when I started in 2004. It served me well, and earned me the nickname "Beard" in several circles of my friends. But I've long wanted to be a tarutaru, because tarutaru are so adorable.

    But I think SE has explicitly said they can't do this. I think it had something to do with race specific equipment. Maybe they can't work out the mechanics so that, say, a guy wearing Wave Gages who tries to change from Hume to Taru can unequip them automatically before the transfer. Which seems silly. After all, levelling down unequips gear automatically, plus you could just have the race change function take place in-game, with an NPC forcing you to surrender and/or unequip all race specific gear before proceeding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    The perspective of another race can be experienced by creating another character. The "benefits" of another race should not be allowed to be gained- people would change their race like they change their job, just for that tiny miniscule edge it would give them. I do not want to see people going "oh, I want to play BLM full time for a while, so I'll change to Tarutaru. Next month, I'll focus on Warrior and switch to Elvaan." Even though as described earlier, most racial characteristic differences are trivial at best.
    I would think that a monetary fee in real world currency would easily discourage such capricious race changing.
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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarchery View Post
    I would think that a monetary fee in real world currency would easily discourage such capricious race changing.
    Or even if it just had a massive cool down, I haven't seen an argument yet that didn't boil down to someone wanting to impose their will on others by limiting their choices.
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    I support this. It's a game, let's be happy playing it.
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    Anymore feedback on this, I haven't forgot about it and would love to hear from people who are able to make this happen on there feedback.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    You are getting the completely wrong idea of this whole suggestion.
    No, I'm not. I understand it completely. That doesn't remove the potential abuse from having it, no matter what the time restriction is. a one-time-only recustomizaiton due to new faces/hairs/races being added is the only time I would ever be comfortable with an allowed change.

    Anymore feedback on this, I haven't forgot about it and would love to hear from people who are able to make this happen on there feedback.
    Just FYI, right now the community team is on vacation, and they are instructed to normally not reply to threads specifically asking for their attention.

    Also, SE has responded to this topic in the past saying they have no plans to do it for various reasons, one of which was difficulty of implementation.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 12-27-2011 at 02:19 AM.

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