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    I don't think Yoshi (or who ever that quote was from) was worried about people being offended by the shock of a character changing from male to female. I'm pretty sure he was commenting on how strange it would be to find out that super cool LS leader or cool guy friend of yours actually wants to be a chick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    find out that super cool LS leader or cool guy friend of yours actually wants to be a chick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    I don't think Yoshi (or who ever that quote was from) was worried about people being offended by the shock of a character changing from male to female. I'm pretty sure he was commenting on how strange it would be to find out that super cool LS leader or cool guy friend of yours actually wants to be a chick.
    It was yoshida, it was more of a joke comment based in role play. I remember when he wrote that. It was more of a joke based from the english translater then yoshida. Sometimes the translaters slip a lil of themselves into his letters to the customers. Anything, it was more based on role play. Since in mmo we communicate through our characters/avatars/toons, it might be strange to get to know one avatar they change race/gender and your roegadyn buddy now a female miqo'te. But incidently come ps3 release they revamping their customization adding is the "missing" genders. And chances are will allow recustomization options.
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    What's the worst... thing... that could happen.

    Not to go more off-topic, more, I don't think I would even compare this to Anime.
    Because you know, everything and anything goes there... a lot more than just 'drag' and 'gay' and whatnot. ^^;

    Moreover the posts were more about actual sex-changes, I think, not about dressing up as the opposite sex which by the way is what probably most of FFXI players already do hahaha! Yes.
    No! I am not comparing 'drag' to having a mithra or other female character while you're male, so keep yer pants on... or what ever.

    Phew, that was a close one.
    Let's never go there again!

    This all got me into thinking of how America has been the one to censor video-games especially from Japan (latest that comes in mind is 'Tera', or whatever it was/is?), and have been censoring them from ever since Famicom/NES times, or even before that.
    This game is already world-wide (more or less) by default, so I don't think they're thinking just Japan when they do these decisions. Or maybe they do. This all might very well be irrelevant and in the end, I don't see much of an argument against this here, in this thread. No, they're not against it per se, they're more like thoughts on why they probably wouldn't do it.

    So anime, censoring, cultural differences, other games and everything left aside, thinking of some of the reasons why they might not do it.
    • Just because other games do it, doesn't mean FFXI does.
    • They might not do it just because they don't want to.
    • It wouldn't make sense.
    • It would be too much work to adjust quests and other content.
    • Finding balance between the tails of galka and mithra would be too difficult at this time.
    • PS2-limitations. /grin
    And why they might do it.
    • New source of income from the fees attached.
    • It would make some players happy.
    • Because they can.
    Did I miss anything?

    To make it clear, I am not against this.
    However I would not benefit from it either (one might argue that more funds for the game would benefit me but for the time being, I have hard time believing in anything like that). I would really not care either way. If you want a sex-, or race-change, knock yourself out, literally. No, don't do that... I mean goferit ! !! !

    I just don't see it happening, though.
    Everything is possible, of course. There is a game that introduced name and sex change services rather late and I have to admit, it did spoil some of the 'mood' or 'feel' of the game in my opinion. Then again, the community itself changed a lot around that time as well so in the end, it didn't even matter any longer.
    Also there are only 4 'jobs' which you can never change... not that it makes any difference; just sayin'.

    Comparing the game to other games in this sense just does not work, I think. As I have mentioned, it's a lot more probable to see them make it so that you are able to change the hairdo, and perhaps face even, by completing some sort of a quest for Brygid for example, but really, a change of race? I just can't see it.

    But only time will tell.
    Are you there to listen?


    Just thinking 'out-loud', and nothing here is directed towards any one person, really! ^^

    Now I have a fish to catch.
    Blubb.
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    ...or so the legend says.


  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    to add. the whole "japanese anti sex change" is flawed..... watch anime >.>;;; tokyo godfathers has a drag queen who was openly gay. infact they have a whole scene in a drag queen bar
    Yes, cross dressing is fairly well accepted, sex changes are not. That's why Poison (Final Fight, Street Fighter III, Steet Fighter X Tekken) is a "newhalf" (a man who takes female hormones and dresses and lives as a woman) in Japan and a transsexual in the west. Some even block their puberty and start on female hormones in their early teens so that they develop female secondary sex characteristics and skeletal development. But most would never even consider an operation to whack off their parts.

    Or as Moviebob might put it:

    JAPAN.. IS.. WEEEEIIIIRRRRRD!
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    i was more talking about a cetrtain type of "anime". With certain say.... potions that change certain things about people. Hard to really explain with out being censored. But people rarely mix business with beliefs due to the nature of each country being different. Only when dealing with a country like china who is communist, then it gets changed so the game is able to be sold there.

    But in reality making character customization have ties with sex changing is a bad anology, or reason not to do it, or assume they can't. Since its a video game and not reality, and changing your race don't mean changing your gender unless you choose to. But as someone pointed out your character is not you. Just a tool used to have an ID with in the realm of the game to communicate with.

    What i find hilarious, is so many are against this a basic freedom. Which does not effect anyone but the person who does it. Yet.... stuff like leeching which actually does effect others is actually fought over tooth and nail to be allowed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    changing your race don't mean changing your gender
    This is not actually true for mithra and galka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    This is not actually true for mithra and galka.
    Keeping in mind that for galka, this would mean GAINING a gender. >.>
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    The amount of stupidity on both sides of this argument is mind boggling...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brolic View Post
    for the 90th time cant be done\wont be done. you might get a sex\face change
    Your stupid if you think you cannot do it. All it takes is them to change what Dat is linked with your account. it's more the case as they don't want to. Get it right prz!
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