Relic Weapon Skills at Level 99

[Chriscoffey]

5-7 k dyna currency you say Macross lol maybe we should all invade your server because on quetz and valefor i wish it was that cheap lol.

I have yet to see it be that on carbuncle for an average cost. I have saw that for a few singles when running across people but not something where you are buying 100's in that amount range on average. I might need to consider getting some myself if it is that cheap there.

While this is true, why don't you notice that we're level 95 right now, and it's much harder to get any empyrean to 95 then any relic?

No, it is about the same considering you can spam VW as much as your little heart desires. It just requires you buy plates or get lucky getting them yourself. I am almost positive they cave into the emo about the plates and make them drop more with new VW or something later. People are just hoarding up the items like they did when relics first came out so there isn't as many to go around.

I don't think it is hard to get relic or empyrean either to 95. Mythics are not really hard just more time than most will devote to "casual playing", however, I am doing one because I was doing TOAU long before abyssea came out with the quest.

[Cljader1]

No.

10,000 * 17,900 = 179,000,000

This is correct, and the price varies from server to server, but its anywhere from 150 -250 million gil and 179 mil could be considered the average price, my apoc was definitely over 200 mil when I completed it.

[Greatguardian]

Over 200Mil? Did you not get a 30 loan? Or were prices really that bad on Bismark?

[Cljader1]

Maybe on your server. Currency is around 5-7k on mine. Everyone farms, lots of undercutting. Also subtract 3000 from that total, unless you plan on just tossing that extra 3000.

You can easily kill any VW mob with a bunch of pup/smns. You just won't get any good loot ^^

Kitkat, your math assumes you will be constantly fighting, with no amensia or any other status debufs. Having always on dbl/triple dmg is better than having to rely on aftermath. Most will ws at 100 tp, and that's only 30 sec. That wears off pretty damn fast with even a little slack, or when you cannot engage due to no mobs to melee, or amnesia or sleepga or whatever stops you.

currency is NOT 5k on our server and we are on the same server, I never brought currency for 5k, the cheapest I seen it was 7k (very very rare) and currency is mostly between 8-11k.

[Alerith]

currency is NOT 5k on our server and we are on the same server, I never brought currency for 5k, the cheapest I seen it was 7k (very very rare) and currency is mostly between 8-12k with the average being around 10k

In before Macross claims he "knows a guy who sells it cheap to him."

[Ragni]

macross u post some nice crap, maybe its time to stop?

[Insaniac]

PROTIP: Mandau is superior to Twastar all the time.

Not really. Mandau and Twashtar are probably the most well balanced emp and relic counterparts. Twashtar is better than Mandau in about as many situations as Mandau is better than Twashtar which is how it should be for all emps/relic/mythics. None of them should really outshine the other by a mile in any situation but it would be fine for them to have places that they shine ever so slightly. As it is there are some places where relics are pretty close or slightly better than emps but there are also places where those same emps make their relic counterparts look like AH weapons. There are obvious exceptions like Farsha and Redemption.

[Greatguardian]

In before Macross claims he "knows a guy who sells it cheap to him."

This actually isn't that uncommon, even on our server. I sell HMPs cheap to a few friends of mine.

[Dew]

Dunno why everyone is complaining about relics so much. Anything under lv95 isn't finished. It's all about the final product, which is soon to be Lv99 in few days. So really it doesn't matter what it is till then. Once you get to the final product then compare which is harder to get. No relic is 200mil or even close. You get back 30 100s, so even if you buy them you don't spend anything on those last 30. Unless your going to toss them once you get them back.

All of this relic q.q is just dumb. Yes, some of the ws's could use little work. The aftermaths on some relic could also use a look over, but they are far from being the hardest to get. If anything it should be Mythics that complain about so much work for lower grade weapons then relic/empyrean.(Aside from Nirvana and maybe a few others.)

With all that being said Relics, Empyreans, and Mythics all have their ups and downs. No single class of the three is better. Each weapon has different uses. They aren't all made to deal 99,999 damage per ws. Always the same thing, if something doesn't do as much or more damage then the other they think it needs to be even better. People need to get over it and if so and so weapon is better spend less time complaining on the forums and go get it. You want to have the best, then go get the best. Complaining isn't increasing your relics, mythics, or empyreans damage.

[Insaniac]

I agree that things might change at 99 but:

Yes, some of the ws's could use little work. The aftermaths on some relic could also use a look over.

This is a monumental understatement. Most of the relic WSs are unusable and most of the aftermaths are so pointless that they don't even make you think twice about using the already vastly inferior WS.

If anything it should be Mythics that complain about so much work for lower grade weapons then relic/empyrean.

As of the OAThrice update at 95 most Mythics are amazing and/or broken. SE failed to get the utility aspect right on some of the utility weapons but most Mythics are now well worth the effort. Also what about asking for relics to be buffed means mythics can't get buffed too? They aren't mutually exclusive so you guys can stop singing that tune. If mythics want to complain then they have every right to do so in a different thread.