Relic Weapon Skills at Level 99

[macross]

I just turned in stage 4 of the bow today, you can see it on monday. It's not something I would lie about lol. I've had the currency for a while, just decided to turn it in and start it cause LSmate is doing his too so can work on trials together at some point, the NM stages. Being someone who actually farmed an entire relic on his own in 40 days, I feel my opinion on how easy it is does indeed matter. Hardest part of making it was deciding exactly which relic to make. Have you guys actually tried to farm dynamis lately? Actually who here even farmed their currency? I'd assume most simply bought the currency then made it, spending millions back when we were all 75.

My posts are entirely relevant. Of course I haven't actually gotten my relic to 95 or even 75 yet, but I've helped others with their trials, and it's not hard at all, just kill a bunch of EP mobs then a few EP nms.

Why does everyone keep over exaggerating how fast you can complete an empy. It's only fast because there are no artificial time constraints put on it. If you got alot of help and your game day is 16 hours long then of course it only takes a few days. Take those people and all go solo dynamis for you for 2 hours and you will have enough to make a relic too within 2-3 days.

colliex, which 2 empys did you barely sneeze at and make from start to completion in a week? How many people did you have helping you? How many pretrials did you sleep over night and leech? Since you are mega rich, how fast can you get the 15-16k currency to make a brand new lvl 75 relic? How long do you estimate it would take you to take a relic from 75 to 95? How fast can you make your lvl 95 empy? It took me 1 month to make 90-95 empy. You might have all the money in the world, but you still can't buy 1500 plates just like that. Well maybe more supply now that ls bard finished her harp today. Go look around and see how much currency you can buy for relic. Is so much out there, all you need is the gil.

[Runespider]

Given the latest interview I have to say I honestly doubt they will buff relics much more (last trial for them all will probably be VERY underwhelming), if anything the big emp WS (UF, VS etc) will be nerfed somewhat to put them more inline with the other 2 sets of "super" weapons. The buffing players stage of the game has come and gone, now it's all about balance again and in all honesty relics got far more buffs already than they would before abyssea and since that time is coming back I don't think we will get more.

I like the idea of my relic becoming more inline with my emps but as I said, new direction of leadership added to making them all easier to get...I don't think it's gonna get much more.

[Cljader1]

colliex, which 2 empys did you barely sneeze at and make from start to completion in a week? How many people did you have helping you? How many pretrials did you sleep over night and leech? Since you are mega rich, how fast can you get the 15-16k currency to make a brand new lvl 75 relic? How long do you estimate it would take you to take a relic from 75 to 95? How fast can you make your lvl 95 empy? It took me 1 month to make 90-95 empy. You might have all the money in the world, but you still can't buy 1500 plates just like that. Well maybe more supply now that ls bard finished her harp today. Go look around and see how much currency you can buy for relic. Is so much out there, all you need is the gil.

Your on bismark, you already know I'm mega rich... Caladbolg took a week, I barely sneezed and I got that emp to 85, the reason why emps are so easy to get to lvl 90 is because it take absolutely no capital at all to get too lvl 90 its all leg work. Now when you add a stage that need capital, you weed ALOT of people out. the hardest part getting an emp too lvl 90 is the vnm pretrails outside of that all you got too do is pug farm or have a group of friends help you farm. I did cara gems in one day

[Kitkat]

My posts are entirely relevant. Of course I haven't actually gotten my relic to 95 or even 75 yet, but I've helped others with their trials, and it's not hard at all, just kill a bunch of EP mobs then a few EP nms.

No they aren't because they are straw man arguments not related to the primary topic. All you are doing is feeding an off topic argument, also known as baiting (flame bait) while not offering any relevant feedback to the actual topic. Thus your points are invalid, your post are irrelevant, and this leaves your post as mere banter.

Topic: Relic weapon/WS
Your point: They are too easy and don't deserve any change.
Retort: Emp is just as easy and all other weapons/ws behave differently.
Your response: They are too easy and don't deserve any change coupled with Perceptive reasoning ignoring topic.
Findings: Straw man argument and Flame baiting
Conclusion: Your post are irrelevant and have no basis within the topic.

[Greatguardian]

You're both arguing in circles. The perception of the topic is different.

Macross: Only idiots are asking for Relics to be hands down better than Empyreans. However, despite their comparable difficulty, many Relics are pretty craptastic - especially compared to their Empyrean counterparts. Bringing them up to speed does not necessitate blowing Empyreans out of the water, nor does it imply that all relics are currently worthless. Some are still best-in-class weapons.

Kit: I realize what you and some others are trying to discuss, however you're always going to have detractors even among your own supporters. Posts like this one:

They shouldn't, trial wise they should be equal. Strength wise relics should naturally be stronger from 75 onwards, with Emps being like the little brother of 'em with Mythic's being Big Bro.

Relics are more difficult to obtain, therefore they SHOULD be better.

Should not happen. They only serve to distract from the issue at hand. Unfortunately, this sort of thing happens a lot. People are very stodgy about their Relics. Or worse, people without Relics are stodgy about the concept of a Relic. Relics aren't that hard, but they're still ultimate weapons. Bringing them up to par with Mythics and Empyreans (which both destroy most Relics) would only be sensible.

[Taint2]

I spent 0 gil on my bow... I farmed it 100%. Took me 40 days of farming, currently in the turning in stages, so Yes I know how easy it is to make a relic. If I wasn't limited to 2 hours per day, it would have taken around 5 days or less, depending on how long I farmed. The only cockblock is time. 2 hours a day x 40, 80 hours to make a relic. How many hours to make an empy? That 40 days is with 3 people btw. 3 people to farm your empy start to finish, how long would it take you.

385 coins per run with 3 people is highly unlikely and everything going to you. I farm Dynamis most days with 2 very very good players (sometimes 3 others) and 385, while possible isn't happening every single day. I also would feel very selfish taking every single coin for 40 days straight.

So when did you really start your bow and how long did it really take?

[Unleashhell]

I'm really hoping to get some kind of feedback from the Devs about this before they do the next update. I know they have a million other things to worry about but if they just say lets take 2-3 minutes and decide what to do with relics, and they say ok 10% more boost in hidden effect and call it good then I'll be a little pissed. not like I can do anything about it anyway lol.

[Arbole]

Aren't the stats for all the lvl 99 ultimate weapons already on BG?

[Foldypaws]

Aren't the stats for all the lvl 99 ultimate weapons already on BG?

You can see what would be listed in the equipment screen, but no one knows what Afterglow is, or if they're going to be adjusting or adding more hidden stats. (WS% boost, xDamage proc rate, something else entirely)

[Unleashhell]

Looks like they aren't even letting us test them before the update being that its Wednesday. The upgrade items SHOULD be drops in dynamis. Otherwise it would not follow any sort of pattern for relic weapons, but then again Emp at 95 are VW and those items aren't in Abyssea so we will see.