Dynamis

[Brolic]

whats your point? you can make a relic solo , good job . i play the game and fun , the whole point of a game . While your crying about this trying to complete yet another Relic all by your lonesome , i am laughing and enjoying hangin out wit mah boyz . I'll take havin fun with my friends and no relic over your uber solo-ness . You rock .

Who's crying? your boy is the one that made the thread crying

[Nynja]

if you have 5 ppl, you should be doing EM/T mobs regardless...

I want to fucking punch babies in the face when I enter valk, then an entire group of like 8 ppl enter and start farming the EP mobs

[Mikumaru]

if you have 5 ppl, you should be doing EM/T mobs regardless...

I want to fucking punch babies in the face when I enter valk, then an entire group of like 8 ppl enter and start farming the EP mobs

i cant help it that we can kill more EP than DC~ . I also cant help it that Square made a couple areas dumb easy to get all the TEs and others require group to get . You can get all the TE's in Xarc fairly quickly and easily Vs. needing a group or a pet job to do them in Bastok . I think some one in this thread suggested changing drops between the Mobs . If we kill EP or EM mobs , once staggered and TH'd they all pretty much drop the same amount of coins . So why take longer to kill mobs for the same drops ?just so the Solo ppl stop crying ? yea right cause they would so do the same for us instead of taking monsters already staggered right (the original point of this thread) . When we farm and a BST has a small group , guess what we do . we leave him alone to do his thing , even tho he wont return the favor once they are all dead . If people would use a small amount of etiquette or maybe even try reasoning with those who they feel have moved in on your camp , things may go a little more cordially . But no , it better to be just be jerk from the offset , right ?

[Ihnako]

Regardless what your GM said or not - claiming a staggered mob isn't stealing cause you don't have the ability to let it be claimed (and there are jobs that can hold several mobs claimed)
So in my eyes - if someone "steals" your/my staggered mob - it's your/my fault and you/I don't have to complain about it.

And for those people who didn't understood my previous posting ;p has a clear meaning - google it if you don't know!

[Sappho]

and yet I've completed more relics with my no friends than you entire group has.

It is easy to complete relics when you buy gil, right Brolick?

[Aldersyde]

I normally dont jump in on these type thread but Walk and i are in the Same LS and he isnt talking Hoarding MObs as a solo BST . he talking about when we go to Dynamis as a group . Going in with 5+ people . pulling 5-8 Mobs (something a group like this can handle easily) staggering them individually (since there is a time limit before stagger changes) then focusing on a single mob . we can Stagger and a kill a group of 8 in less than 5 minutes . with 5 people we Average 300+ coins run(Vs a Solo BST doing 120 +/- 15) . This is a co-operative game still . when we have 6 or more ppl come we hit the DC-T monsters . It's a huge annoyance when any player , BSt or other wise, come and tries to take already Staggered mobs . The GMs i have talked to about this call this a grief tactic , which is illegal by the EUA . Taking monsters not staggered , not so much . You wanna say this hoarding then try being less of a jerk and try takin the mobs before they get staggered . Or find some friends and complete that relic in 1/3rd the time . Not doin a weapon and farmin for gil ? Sorry then , but we're not selling our coins . We're makin Weapons .
I agree that Square should change the Stagger rates . Its so hard to stagger mobs on anything but Job Abilities (how many spells and Weapon Skills Vs how many Job Abilities?) of course this is the obvious choice when farming coins . Personally , i feel this addition to Dynamis is unwarranted and a complete annoyance in and that of it's self . The old Russian Roulette style was far more fun and rewarding . Especially now that it's an open area where groups can interact with one another , poor judgement call Square . If it was Locked like before the change , this stagger addition would be a great call . Now , not so much .

Thanks for clarifying the job situation. People saw a bst making the thread and they automatically assumed it was solo bst hogging mobs when everyday I see groups like yours trying to keep claimed every mob in area. People should assume less.

Sorry, If I have no mob to fight and you're trying to hold 5-8 mobs, yes, I am taking a yellow one. My time's as valuable as yours.

[Morier]

If it is yellow, it is not your mob. /thread

[Cementfoot]

It all comes down to respect alot of players nowadays have none i pick and choose different dynamis to do based on if any1 is in there i duo as a bst and a dnc my wife and i pull 1 mob at a time i make a comment stating my time in and area of camp so 1st thing dont say every bst is the same i have yet to cry or whine about a pt coming to camp on top of us and out pull/ horde area cause they can proc and kill faster to where we can not

[Unleashhell]

If you have a mob triggered why not just kill it? That's just plain stupid to leave a triggered mob go yellow. Just have someone kill it. From what you are saying it sounds like you trigger a mob and all 5+ of you move onto the next mob and don't kill the mob you triggered. Also why are you even doing magic or WS trigger mobs if you are farming coins?

[Tiddlypeep]

we proc then focus on one . 3/4 people kills one mob faster than soloing it , again you know this had you any friends .

i'm sorry i have to agree with Brolic, if u cant keep mobs claimed with 5-6 of u then seriously suck less, i do dyna with 4-5 ppl, we pull 4-5 mobs keep them all claimed and walk out with 400+ coins on average, and seeing as ur talking about solid math has it not occurred to u that proc'ing a mob then killing it before moving onto another is actually faster than proc'ing 5 mobs then 5 dd killing 1 mob at a time? 5 dd pull 5 mobs and kill a mob each is much faster than 5 dd pull 5 mobs, proc all then disengage, reengage 1 mob kill > switch mob > kill > switch mob > rinse > repeat