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    Player Avelonia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Who got banned?
    Several people have admitted receiving temporary bans recently from this forum on other forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    All you're doing is effectively spamming these forums. Congratulations, you may feel special now.
    And what is it exactly that you contribute to these forums? All i see are 1300 posts belittling people who have a different opinion as your own. It's like you come on here just to get off on being some sort of virtuous voice of reason on all things FFXI. I don't need this forum to feel special. I come here to be entertained by the train wreck while I'm bored at work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avelonia View Post
    Several people have admitted receiving temporary bans recently from this forum on other forums.
    It was rhetorical question. I answered it myself in the next sentence, if you bothered to read it:
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Who got banned? Only people being insulting are getting banned.
    Quote Originally Posted by Avelonia View Post
    And what is it exactly that you contribute to these forums? All i see are 1300 posts belittling people who have a different opinion as your own.
    Then you're either blind or didn't read my posts. Or you don't understand them. I believe it's the latter.

    I don't care for different opinions. I care for bullshit. If someone comes here and says "I like Abyssea" I will say "Hey, good for you! Want a cookie?", however, if they come and say "Abyssea was good and the old game was bad and now the devs aren't listening to us anymore!", that's different. That's not you expressing your opinion. That's you stating assertions about the game, which can be debated. And I will debate them.

    People like you think everything they say is an opinion. That's garbage. If people are being retarded, I will try to straighten them out. Sadly, in this forum that's quite a bit of work, but I'm not easily discouraged.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avelonia View Post
    I come here to be entertained by the train wreck while I'm bored at work.
    Good for you. The first opinion you have expressed in the last few posts. Which is why I won't argue it. I will, however, point out that you calling me belittling of others' opinions, yet yourself admitting you come here to "be entertained by the train wreck" doesn't exactly put you in a strong moral position over me.
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  3. #633
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    You're a very angry person Arcon, it's the holidays...go get drunk or high..or something XD

    People like you think everything they say is an opinion. That's garbage. If people are being retarded, I will try to straighten them out. Sadly, in this forum that's quite a bit of work, but I'm not easily discouraged.
    You think you are fixing peoples views but you don't actually understand that people can't argue without someone to argue with, you are actually giving us all someone to argue with and make our random rantings on the forum more entertaining. Keep up the good work mr angry arcon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Then you're either blind or didn't read my posts. Or you don't understand them. I believe it's the latter.
    So you're subtlety calling me a idiot, touche!

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    I don't care for different opinions. I care for bullshit. If someone comes here and says "I like Abyssea" I will say "Hey, good for you! Want a cookie?", however, if they come and say "Abyssea was good and the old game was bad and now the devs aren't listening to us anymore!", that's different. That's not you expressing your opinion. That's you stating assertions about the game, which can be debated. And I will debate them.
    Fair enough, but there is a positive way to debate things without sounding like a condescending douchebag. It honestly makes you no better than the people you go after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    You're a very angry person Arcon, it's the holidays...go get drunk or high..or something XD
    I'm not nearly as angry as I seem on here. I'm kinda like Avelonia, just bored and nothing else to do. Also, I'm not here to argue with you. You're either a troll or an idiot, either way I know I won't convince you. But my conscience won't let me just stand by and let you spew your bullshit without any opposition. It's for people with half a brain who come here to find out that this forum isn't just populated by retarded baboons like the FFXIAH, BG and ZAM forums so unanimously say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    You think you are fixing peoples views but you don't actually understand that people can't argue without someone to argue with, you are actually giving us all someone to argue with and make our random rantings on the forum more entertaining.
    Good to know this is also just entertainment for you. Either way, that's bullshit, as usual. You were ranting long before I came along and will rant long after I've given up. You say I'm angry? Deflect much? You're the one starting thread after thread (which get deleted time after time), ranting, rallying and insulting people on the development and production team. Call me angry if you want, you're obviously not any better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avelonia View Post
    Fair enough, but there is a positive way to debate things without sounding like a condescending douchebag. It honestly makes you no better than the people you go after.
    Probably, but I'm not out to win a popularity contest. If my bullshit radar goes off, I will call people out on it, regardless of how it makes me seem.

    There's also a subtle difference. I know it won't make it any better either, but it's a matter of who deserves it. I'm kind of an eye-for-an-eye kinda guy. If people are being insulting, stupid and stubborn about it, I have no issues being insulting, stupid and stubborn about it in return (although I try to avoid the stupid part wherever I can). I'm more than capable of arguing normally (and agreeing normally, as strange as it may sound sometimes), and I will show respect to whoever is respectful towards me and others. He's not one of those people. Simple as that.

    And here's the thing: if we knew for a fact that Tanaka is the evil guy Runespider believes him to be, I would have no issue with this whatsoever. But it's not a matter of opinion that his arguments are retarded. He doesn't even argue when I call him out on it, if that's a sign of anything. Yet he keeps going on and on about it, making new threads several times a week, with absolutely the same content, only to shut up again when I tell him how stupid he is (or when they get deleted). And then he turns and says I'm angry or whatever and thinks that makes him more popular or whatever (well, I guess he is, given the likes on his posts), but worst of all, he thinks it makes him right. Which it doesn't. He's a sad little boy who got his toys taken away, and he's angry about it, so he comes on here and rages about it. I only wish mods had a strict bullshit policy, then he would have been gone long ago.
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  6. #636
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    He's a sad little boy who got his toys taken away, and he's angry about it, so he comes on here and rages about it. I only wish mods had a strict bullshit policy, then he would have been gone long ago.
    I'm not angry at all and I don't think my posts ever reflect anger unlike you, I get a bit irritated after a marathon run at VW with no drops but not angry. I leave that to you, I still laugh when you get really angry and spout hippy! like some old war veteran or something.. XD

    I post here ultimately because I have a lot of time invested in the game and I care about how it evolves, I want the game to be the best it can be for me and everyone else that plays it (I know you agree on some things with me, ie VW loot systems etc and not on others, thats fine). Old FFXI won't make FFXI more successfull (lets agree to disagree on this but most agree with me on that), I don't want to play another game because none of them appeal to me and as such since we have an avenue to communicate with them about what we like and dislike about FFXI we will use it.

    Ultimately what we post has almost no impact on anything aside from the our fellow posters, it just makes us feel better about our respective views. I've long since come to terms that that the JP players are the decision makers in terms of player views..luckily most of them seem to have similar views to those of us that aren't happy about recent developments.

    Also I don't think the guy you mentioned is evil but I know his ideas are outdated, unpopular and generally not nice for players, judge people on what they put out last (ff14).
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    Dealing with Arcon is simple, click his name then click "ignore this poster", *poof* problem solved.
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    Thank you, saevel. You have saved me the tedium of scrolling past long-winded, pointlessly angry posts. Now I just have to scroll past a couple of lines and know that I'm still not missing anything.
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    The dev team knows what we want but to give us what we want would compromise their skewed views of "balance". "balance" being content that takes years to complete just so they do not have to add newer content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellith View Post
    The dev team knows what we want but to give us what we want would compromise their skewed views of "balance". "balance" being content that takes years to complete just so they do not have to add newer content.
    This. The main issue I have with the current game is a lack of new content. Love it or hate it, Abyssea was an absolutely massive amount of new content with a very high degree of participation that has kept players busy for quite a while. My concern is that the new content now is very thin and the developers are taking care of the "keep players busy" part simply by adding low random drop rates and absurd requirements for repeating the same event over and over to accomplish the goals. I prefer the former style but SE seems to not want to make the investment.
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