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    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Voidwatch is fun. Drop system is not. Really need to differentiate between the two. Otherwise, things just get so convoluted.
    This.

    Two thumbs up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
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    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    Player Mirabelle's Avatar
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    Do I think that's ideal? No. I don't like the Abyssea job system much either. But that doesn't make it any less true. DDs shouldn't have their backs turned because you shouldn't be bringing like 6-10 people to Abyssea. If you have extra DDs that are not your tank/proc (Which should be the same person), you're wasting slots.
    This is relevant for those only interested in making the most of their time in getting gear. People play games for many reasons and an MMORPG is above all a social game. If you have 5 friends that want to do some stuff in Aby, there's no reason they shouldn't do so. If one of them doesn't have an ideal job he can still contribute. Virtually every job can proc something. A PLD can come and hit SWD, GSWD, Club and staff procs.

    We run a 6 man static empyrean group. If 4 people show up we go WAR/NIN/THF/WHM and make out fine. If all six are on, we don't tell 2 to stay home. We go WAR/NIN/THF/WHM/BLM/whatever. I've seen plenty of groups that have tag alongs that don't have the most efficient setup. Those people contribute and the group has fun. So there is no such thing as "wasted slots" if people are enjoying themselves and each other in a social game.

    Its always unfortunate that players spend so much time trying to bypass SE's time sink hurdles that they restrict jobs and make the game less fun for themselves and others. All that does is make SE create even more daunting hurdles that forces the player base to get even more pedantic about ultimate job setup and efficiency.
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    Player Aldersyde's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirabelle View Post
    We run a 6 man static empyrean group. If 4 people show up we go WAR/NIN/THF/WHM and make out fine. If all six are on, we don't tell 2 to stay home. We go WAR/NIN/THF/WHM/BLM/whatever. I've seen plenty of groups that have tag alongs that don't have the most efficient setup. Those people contribute and the group has fun. So there is no such thing as "wasted slots" if people are enjoying themselves and each other in a social game.
    This. It's the same way in my ls. Most of the people there had been playing together for years. When Abyssea came out, the leads didn't start handing out pink slips when it was discovered that the event could be effectively low manned. We went in and did our thing successfully without having the most perfect setup. For all I hear about FFXI having such a great community, the people on forums sure make friends and acquaintances sound completely expendable for the sake of efficiency.
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    Can always have the guy that has less desirable jobs be the "free roamer" looking for timed key item NM's, and random NM's who people in the group might want drops from.
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    Hey Arcon buddy, where are ya? SE nerfed Realmrazer after the WS was applauded by the players as a reason to finally utilize club beyond mere procs and it gets nerfed overnight in response.

    SE could use an apologist and I think you're the man for the job.
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    Sparthosx - Lakshmi - 90 BLU BRD SAM COR RNG DNC PUP BST WAR WHM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparthos View Post
    Hey Arcon buddy, where are ya? SE nerfed Realmrazer after the WS was applauded by the players as a reason to finally utilize club beyond mere procs and it gets nerfed overnight in response.

    SE could use an apologist and I think you're the man for the job.
    And this from the guy who used the "ad hominem attack, so you must be dumb!" argument. Anyway, you think wrong:

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    As for the current topic (Realmrazer nerf), I can't say anything that hasn't been said already. Although if I do, maybe it'll carry more weight, so here goes: Retarded. Another example in a long line of mistakes by the development team. Good going, guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    And this from the guy who used the "ad hominem attack, so you must be dumb!" argument. Anyway, you think wrong:
    Except I didn't attack you? I simply asked for your response given your point of view has been as an apologist on behalf of the dev team.

    It's good to know we both agree that the Realmrazer nerf is retarded though.
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    Sparthosx - Lakshmi - 90 BLU BRD SAM COR RNG DNC PUP BST WAR WHM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post
    [SIZE="6"]WHO FIGHTS SENDA MORE THAN ONCE ??!?[/SIZE]

    inb4 emp staff...
    Sedna also drops +2. Yes I have seen groups spam him and yes I have seen someone with Empyrean Staff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    That stupid gigas NM for Briareus pop spams that Ranged Attack move every other attack, that is considered a TP move.
    And there's tons more abyssea mobs that spam TP moves without being fed TP. I am not going to sit here and list them all, Nynja must not do Abyssea much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    And there's tons more abyssea mobs that spam TP moves without being fed TP. I am not going to sit here and list them all, Nynja must not do Abyssea much.
    please list them all...I'm curious which ones spam TP moves that arent in a predictable fashion? What mob will actually RANDOMLY spam TP moves?
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