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    Player JeremyCarbuncle's Avatar
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    Lol I agree but If using a PLD to tank for anything is wrong in the eyes of Square Enix,
    then they need to scrap thear whole developement team.

    just fire the whole lot of them.
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    There is just... so much wrong... in that post...
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    Give PLD a provoke type ability that's similar to the Ballista version(forces the opponent to target you for a set duration). Could be 10-15 seconds with a 1min recast, locks hate on you regardless of enmity.
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    Player Agerknux's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophannus View Post
    Give PLD a provoke type ability that's similar to the Ballista version(forces the opponent to target you for a set duration). Could be 10-15 seconds with a 1min recast, locks hate on you regardless of enmity.
    Why do people keep suggesting this? This won't make pld any more relevant.
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    Player Feliciaa's Avatar
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    Lower PLDs overall damage resistance and greatly increase it's DD output. Pure Turtle tanking sounds great on paper but it does not work in MMOs.
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    Player Unleashhell's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feliciaa View Post
    Lower PLDs overall damage resistance and greatly increase it's DD output. Pure Turtle tanking sounds great on paper but it does not work in MMOs.
    ....... Did you really just say that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    Monsters don't wear gear, eat food and rarely have buffs on them (PLD / WHM / RDM notwithstanding). Just like they don't have ridiculous attack, neither do they have ridiculous defense nor evasion.
    And Kirin is not a SMN, he's a "monster", special stats and all. Player community has defined him as a SMN because he astral flows, otherwise we could just as easily of called him a BLM because he use's Stone V / Stonega IV / Quake. Or a MNK because he attacks with two hands. And so forth.

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    PLD doesn't need anything else, what PLD needs are people that actually know how to play it, and utilize the job abilities correctly. I see PLD that blow their load using almost all their job abilities at the start of a fight, then have nothing for minutes past that and loose hate immediately. Learn to space out some of your job abilities and you should be able to hold hate very well. Merits also make a difference, as well as gear swaps.

    PLD has enough offensive weapons that can be utilized (Excalibur, Almace, Burtang), and none of those are not hard to obtain these days. Burtgang is just time consuming because of all the requirements, it is not HARD to get. If you are going to be lazy with your gear and efforts, don't expect sympathy from people when you cant do your job as a PLD.

    Aegis and Ochain are also not hard to obtain. Before people say Ochain is hard, its not. Its time consuming because of the Colorless Souls part. Getting colorful abyssites and tier 3 VNMs is not hard, its time consuming, there is a difference. Azdaja is also not hard at all and can be low manned very easily. I would suggest putting the time into getting one or both of these shields. If you are serious about PLD, your focus should be on getting both of these shields because each help in different situations. The new AH shields as well as VW shields are also other options.

    So please people stop posting about PLD being broke, its not. Learn about Haste, Enmity, and gear swaps for various weaponskills and situations and people shouldn't have all these issues with PLD being broke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    Monsters don't wear gear, eat food and rarely have buffs on them (PLD / WHM / RDM notwithstanding). Just like they don't have ridiculous attack, neither do they have ridiculous defense nor evasion.
    And Kirin is not a SMN, he's a "monster", special stats and all. Player community has defined him as a SMN because he astral flows, otherwise we could just as easily of called him a BLM because he use's Stone V / Stonega IV / Quake. Or a MNK because he attacks with two hands. And so forth.

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    Player Ziyyigo-Tipyigo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unleashhell View Post
    Excalibur, Almace, Burtang... Aegis and Ochain
    FGSFDS
    /sigh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo View Post
    FGSFDS
    /sigh
    Let me guess... those are hard to get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    Monsters don't wear gear, eat food and rarely have buffs on them (PLD / WHM / RDM notwithstanding). Just like they don't have ridiculous attack, neither do they have ridiculous defense nor evasion.
    And Kirin is not a SMN, he's a "monster", special stats and all. Player community has defined him as a SMN because he astral flows, otherwise we could just as easily of called him a BLM because he use's Stone V / Stonega IV / Quake. Or a MNK because he attacks with two hands. And so forth.

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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unleashhell View Post
    Let me guess... those are hard to get?
    Yes. Also, your post was largely garbage. Burtgang is not, in any way, shape or form a DD weapon. Excalibur can be good, but it's also far from best. And none of them are easy to get. Yes, it is time consuming. Extremely time consuming. The same as it always was. None of it was ever hard to get, so why didn't you just say "oh just get an aegis" at 75? In this case, time equals effort, because you have to be on the lookout for currency or alexandrite all the time while farming Dynamis or Salvage daily (preferably both) and then find more time to camp VNMs and get people to help you with Azdaja, and if you're stuck duoing like I am, then it is fucking hard. The VNM part was easy compared to it.

    Your post basically said "you're a noob if you don't wanna invest one year of your life farming daily to obtain these items so you can play your job properly".

    Also, nothing wrong with blowing your abilities at the start. PLD still has trouble capping CE quickly, unlike other jobs, and Sentinel enhances enmity gain. What other abilities do you wanna keep for later? The only useful ones to keep for certain situations are Rampart and possibly Shield Bash. Berserk, Aggressor, Warcry, Sentinel, Divine Emblem and Sepulcher you can use at any time, so why not use them at start? None of them will help you with regaining enmity in case you lost it, and the sooner you use them the sooner they'll be available again.
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    FFXI: Leviathan > Arcon
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