On the note of Haste and Refresh and Cure IV, all of those spells are our MOST useful and at 99, a BLM/48RDM can haste and cure IV just as good as a 99RDM can.
15% casting time reduction (difference in fastcast 3 and 5)
Effective double duration haste spells
Freedom of subjob

Can RDMs have Haste II as a unique spell that WHMs dont get? WHM specializes in Healing Magic yet Devs give them many good enhancing and enfeebling spells as well. If you include a Haste II make it RDM only please.
WHM gains Haste before redmage by 8 levels, if anything they'd get the single target version first. Hell, they should also get an AOE version...

It's infuriating that many jobs can sub RDM and benefit FULLY from Convert, Refresh
This seems pretty unfair; numerous jobs have had their core job abilities locked out, and their spells reduced in potency. I never understood why SE never tweaked it, even remotely.

A RDM cannot use Accession on their Haste, Enspell IIs.
As a scholar job ability, it seems only fair that they can only AOE spells that they learn natively.

The equivalent analogy would be if hypothetically SCH RDM and PLD all had Cure 5 and the only healing spells WHM had over those jobs was Cure VI but it's a spell unlocked with merit points.
I'd still be happy, cure VI is a rediculous spell whose use is primarily limited inside abyssea. Outside its efficiency pales in comparison to even cure 3. Any good whitemage worth their salt will be using cure V, so that is a terrible analogy. Perhaps if you changed to to cure4 for everyone and cure 5 as a merit, but then all whitemages would run round with 5/5 cure V and 5/5 ShellraV...

WHM has dozens of unique spells that only they can cast AND many RDM spells or AoE versions of RDM spells.
Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
Magic spells were split so that red mages focused on single-target magic, while white mages excelled in AoE magic.
RDM = single target, WHM = AOE. Excluding the single target/aoe versions, whitemage only has a small selection of unique enhancing magic... auspice and the teleport spells.

The fact that they get Addle but RDM can't get Cure V is absurd. Why does WHM get high level enfeebling and they are as Camate said "Healing Specialists" but RDMs cannot get Cure V?
Most whitemages I speak to don't even know that they can cast it, let alone are ever in the situation where they have to cast it. Take it away for all I care if it'll squash that petty arguement.




I will however admit that RDM is in a pretty sorry state at the minute (which should be fixed by adding in half the enfeebles that lurk in the .dats, and removing complete immunity from all mobs).