[dev1049] Stardiver Polearm WS

[Spiritreaver]

@Amador-since he's done some testing

Does Stardiver chain with any of the quested/mythic/Empy WSs?

I ask because of the reference to it possibly being a lead in on a sekka WS flurry if /sam. The PC i use for FFXI is out of commission atm so i can't get on the test server to see for myself.

[Foldypaws]

@Amador-since he's done some testing

Does Stardiver chain with any of the quested/mythic/Empy WSs?

I ask because of the reference to it possibly being a lead in on a sekka WS flurry if /sam. The PC i use for FFXI is out of commission atm so i can't get on the test server to see for myself.

It's Gravitation/Transfixion

Stardiver -> Drakesbane is Gravitation. Makes Darkness with lol Geiskergol.

[Spiritreaver]

It's Gravitation/Transfixion

Stardiver -> Drakesbane is Gravitation. Makes Darkness with lol Geiskergol.

Thanks for that.

But now i'm like 'huh?' Some of the seemingly nice ones aside, looks like SE spent an admirable amount of time on the merits WS's animations and a couple sec into the how they would perform.

[Amador]

Thanks for that.

But now i'm like 'huh?' Some of the seemingly nice ones aside, looks like SE spent an admirable amount of time on the merits WS's animations and a couple sec into the how they would perform.

Exactly my point, why waste so much time and resources on this when it's not worth the time and effort? It's kind of just a slap in the face, not just to us but to the Dev team as well. Why invest in something so well animation wise, time wise, when it's only going to be used 10% if not less of the time spent doing x event?

[Amador]

@Amador-since he's done some testing

Does Stardiver chain with any of the quested/mythic/Empy WSs?

I ask because of the reference to it possibly being a lead in on a sekka WS flurry if /sam. The PC i use for FFXI is out of commission atm so i can't get on the test server to see for myself.

It does however it's nothing worth while. It's something like, Impulse Drive -> Stardive = Gravitation, it doesn't do anything from Drakesbane and I didn't even bother to test it with Geirskogul.
Nice find on what it does with skill chains, but yeah. Stardiver -> Geirskogul lolwut.

@Dragonlord
Effects such as Defense Down do not stack. By that same Rhyme, neither should Critical Hit Evasion -%, I don't know what kind of parties you deal with. However, Ninjas are a huge part of this game whether you choose to accept it or not. They are magnificent damage dealers, and can solo most content currently on the game. Blade: Hi further increases this potential. Almost everything I do has a Ninja involved, and if your group isn't utilizing what Ninja brings to the table quite frankly adjust and fix that because you and your Linkshell are doing it wrong in Tactic Terms.

[Dragonlord]

@Dragonlord
Effects such as Defense Down do not stack.

http://ffxi.gamerescape.com/wiki/Angon

Angon's defense down, dnc's box step, and dia's defense down all stack. I guess it depends if add.eff from weapon and WS count as the same debuff. Probably /shrug

[Foldypaws]

http://ffxi.gamerescape.com/wiki/Angon

Angon's defense down, dnc's box step, and dia's defense down all stack. I guess it depends if add.eff from weapon and WS count as the same debuff. Probably /shrug

That's because Dia inflicts "dia", not Defense down, Box step inflicts "Sluggish Daze", and Angon inflicts "Defense down".

It's all about the name, not the effect. (With the apparent weird exception of cruor buffs and Boost-stats)

Both the katana and the polearm inflict the same named effect, so they wouldn't stack, though both would stack with Feather Step. (Because it inflicts Bewildered Daze, not crit evasion down).

[Amador]

That's because Dia inflicts "dia", not Defense down, Box step inflicts "Sluggish Daze", and Angon inflicts "Defense down".

It's all about the name, not the effect. (With the apparent weird exception of cruor buffs and Boost-stats)

Both the katana and the polearm inflict the same named effect, so they wouldn't stack, though both would stack with Feather Step. (Because it inflicts Bewildered Daze, not crit evasion down).

This.

I'm very curious about TP Bonus having a positive effect on this though, maybe some how @ 125, it becomes 1.0 across the board? But, only means we DRG have to get that is a Moonshade Earring, and or getting 150 in Voidwatch using appropriate Atma... or 200% using Atma of the Smiting Blow, or Magian TP Bonus Lance!

Yet, none of those sidegrade adjustments fix the issue with it. I really really really hope that this entire posting isn't in vain and that they actually care to adjust it, even slightly.

[Alhanelem]

I have heard that due to the nature of its fTP, that the gorgets (and anything else that "increases WS damage") have a profound impact on this WS (more so than the others because of the way it's set up)

[Dragonlord]

I have heard that due to the nature of its fTP, that the gorgets (and anything else that "increases WS damage") have a profound impact on this WS (more so than the others because of the way it's set up)

As foldy mentioned on page 3, the fTP affects all hits of this WS, adding .4 fTP in total instead of .1

@sonshou: for those who want to complete content efficiently, theyre forced to use the best WS, otherwise you're hurting yourself and those in your group. Also he's not attacking anyone, he's arguing his point, quite well really.