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    Player saevel's Avatar
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    SC lost practicality when Alliance based play became the norm.
    SC's lost practicality LONG before Abyssea. They were dieing near the end of COP and going into ToAU. Nobody SC'd after level 70 when everything turned into spampage on deco's in sky or vs demons or vs cockatrices and tigers.

    Sky NM was SC based for awhile, but then shells figured they could kill NM's much faster if they just blasted the NM with two PLD's in a pseudo-zerg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    SC's lost practicality LONG before Abyssea. They were dieing near the end of COP and going into ToAU. Nobody SC'd after level 70 when everything turned into spampage on deco's in sky or vs demons or vs cockatrices and tigers.

    Sky NM was SC based for awhile, but then shells figured they could kill NM's much faster if they just blasted the NM with two PLD's in a pseudo-zerg.
    That was the start, and it should have been the warning signs- much like the exp system now, the combat system has significant flaws that it's "marquee feature" of SC/MB is generally ignored in favor of spamming DPS...because spamming DPS is more effective and efficient.
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    Well we could make them "required" by having the NM do a 9,999 damage aoe move if you WS and it doesn't form a SC.

    There problem "fixed" .........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    Well we could make them "required" by having the NM do a 9,999 damage aoe move if you WS and it doesn't form a SC.

    There problem "fixed" .........
    Murdering the entire area for a whiffed SC is a mite overkill.

    Making it harder if you spam WS's to kill the mob, however? I got no problems with that. SC/MB being back in the picture as an anti-zerg measure works by me, since it helps to neutralize the typical DPS race most big content has become.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustic View Post
    Murdering the entire area for a whiffed SC is a mite overkill.

    Making it harder if you spam WS's to kill the mob, however? I got no problems with that. SC/MB being back in the picture as an anti-zerg measure works by me, since it helps to neutralize the typical DPS race most big content has become.
    Why not the both accomplish the exact same thing with the same level of efficiency?

    Eventually it'll dawn on people exactly why we stopped using SC's in 2004~2005. Until then you'll dream of this land of magic fairy's and unicorns where what your think actually works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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