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    Player Theytak's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by idx1 View Post
    Coming with the new update BLU is able to drain 900+, which a DRK can only hope of doing.

    I personally disagree with this as much as I would enjoy the prospect on 99BLU.

    IF BLU can drain better than a DRK, then DRK should get something that nobody else can do.

    Like....Drain-everything-from-yo-fayce.
    HP/MP/TP+str/dex/vit/the works.

    Balance the numbers so its not literally 12 spells at once.

    But a BLU shouldn't be a better drainer than a DRK.
    Quote Originally Posted by Metaking View Post
    truth i don't see a lot of blus using bloodrake (a move with-33%def comes to mind as to why) and most drks would probably take offense to being said to only be able to do 150 drain1, well the good ones anyhow >.>;. back on topic tho, bloodrake being a physical move also probably means it can miss.... if your going to compare it to something compare it to relic scythe ws which in 5 mins a drk will have weponskills god knows how many times and daring several thousand more hp. No if anyone has a reason to be mad at blu is drg since we are getting spells that trump agol (tho there still 5 min moves that can miss....)
    wait what? Someone said drk only drains 150 HP with drain 1? rofl. I break 250~300 HP drains as Pup/Sch in my TP gear, if a drk can't top that with all of their dark magic skill gear and drain enhancing gear, they royally suck.
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    Nutcracker had trained for years to crush the crotch and/or obliterate the ovaries of each and every monster in Vana'diel. Not even some weird thing that fish have called a "cloaca" could stem his robotic rage towards reproductive bits.

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    Player Selzak's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theytak View Post
    wait what? Someone said drk only drains 150 HP with drain 1? rofl. I break 250~300 HP drains as Pup/Sch in my TP gear, if a drk can't top that with all of their dark magic skill gear and drain enhancing gear, they royally suck.
    You're draining about as much as anyone is going to Drain regardless of being on DRK or not. The formula is capped and slow to build anyway. Which is sort of the problem. Also, the impact of the spell if very meh at 95. By the way, your post is false by definition since Drain will always randomly be at 50% power. So if you're doing 300HP Drains, your range is actually 150-300HP. This is hard-coded into the formula and no M.Acc can help it.

    The main idea here is: Drain and Drain II haven't been able to keep up with levels. Drain II has always been more of a novelty than anything. DRK needs some more useful ways to use its HP, and SE apparently likes BLU a lot more than DRK.
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    Last edited by Selzak; 12-07-2011 at 12:34 AM.

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    Both drain were uncapped sometime ago after people noticed they still were capped for 75 cap iirc. Their scaling is odd, but this is SE we're talking about. It doesn't help Drk doesn't/can't use dark damage affinity either (whether the hidden effect of dark/pluto's or magian staves). That and having such effect attached to weapons Drk shouldn't/can't use for melee in the first place for obvious reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    It doesn't help Drk doesn't/can't use dark damage affinity either (whether the hidden effect of dark/pluto's or magian staves).
    Should be a grip that gives dark affinity as a latent effect that is active when using either a Scythe, Great Sword, or Great Axe. Should also be all elemental affinity shields that cover a combination if not all elements either, but we'll see if SE ever gives us either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Economizer View Post
    Should be a grip that gives dark affinity as a latent effect that is active when using either a Scythe, Great Sword, or Great Axe. Should also be all elemental affinity shields that cover a combination if not all elements either, but we'll see if SE ever gives us either.
    Yes, but DRKs would still use rose/pole/sword or just about any other grip that leans towards melee :<

    There needs to be a grip that does something for both, and not something piddly, something significant for both.
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