The DD Balancing Game

[Greatguardian]

I want to dual wield guns on Corsair.

That is all.

[Deadvinta]

I want to dual wield guns on Corsair.

That is all.

I want to use Cutlasses on Corsair.

That is all.

[Saiken253]

Sorry about the PUP neglect, I like the job myself but, as you said, I forgot about it ; ;(been forever since i've had a chance to play it ._.) but I stand by that fact that you quoted from me haha.

[idx1]

Coming with the new update BLU is able to drain 900+, which a DRK can only hope of doing.

I personally disagree with this as much as I would enjoy the prospect on 99BLU.

IF BLU can drain better than a DRK, then DRK should get something that nobody else can do.

Like....Drain-everything-from-yo-fayce.
HP/MP/TP+str/dex/vit/the works.

Balance the numbers so its not literally 12 spells at once.

But a BLU shouldn't be a better drainer than a DRK.

[Foldypaws]

A BLU can drain 900, once every 5 minutes, at the cost of *not* being able to do every other spell under that JA like double defense, or a 30% defense down + damage, or etc...

In that 5 minutes a DRK with no haste or fastcast gear could cast Drain 5 times and Drain II once. Without hindering their ability to cast any other spell like Absorb-TP or Dread Spikes. If you're not draining at least 150 with Drain, I suggest the problem is not with the job, but with you.

[Selzak]

A BLU can drain 900, once every 5 minutes, at the cost of *not* being able to do every other spell under that JA like double defense, or a 30% defense down + damage, or etc...

In that 5 minutes a DRK with no haste or fastcast gear could cast Drain 5 times and Drain II once. Without hindering their ability to cast any other spell like Absorb-TP or Dread Spikes. If you're not draining at least 150 with Drain, I suggest the problem is not with the job, but with you.

Coming from a 95DRK (played since 2004) and 95BLU (played since the day it came out), you are wrong. BLU is overpowered, and it seems like SE has been giving away all of the things that DRK begs for but get deemed "overpowered" to BLU for a long time.

The reason? BLU is an easy concept. DRK is more confusing, and they don't care enough about the job to be creative with it. I really think that's what it boils down to.

[idx1]

A BLU can drain 900, once every 5 minutes, at the cost of *not* being able to do every other spell under that JA like double defense, or a 30% defense down + damage, or etc...

In that 5 minutes a DRK with no haste or fastcast gear could cast Drain 5 times and Drain II once. Without hindering their ability to cast any other spell like Absorb-TP or Dread Spikes. If you're not draining at least 150 with Drain, I suggest the problem is not with the job, but with you.

I don't have a DRK.

Anyways, so you're saying a DRK has to be 'working his drains' for 5 minutes straight to 'keep up' with the drain amount that the BLU can do in .01 seconds?

And..we're talking about the DRK that has been draining his whole life yet he couldn't find some sort of way to be better at it.
Blue gets Drain-ga via Blood Saber as well.
DRK can Drain-Attri but BLU got Osmosis as well.

But what I'm trying to discuss is the argument of utility.

Would you rather receive a lump sum of 50,000 dollars, or be paid monthly to reach the same amount?
Sure, you could reduce the delay in which you receive your monthly payments with your fast cast gear and what not, but it will never be that one fat 50,000 paycheck.

It is true with what you said about BLU, if they use Bloodrake, they can't use the other UL spells. However UL spells are pretty situational, and the situation I'm talking about is Drain healing.

Bloodrake can also be skillchained to Darkness, and it also uses a TP modifier that modifies its damage. Used with CA you can pushed well over 900, haven't tried using Efflux with it as I believed I would of over-drained my maxHP.
God knows how much damage/HP you'd get with Azure Lore in effect.
Going off topic.

If DRKs think that DRK can drain just fine as is, then that's that I guess.
I just happened to ask myself "Why am I draining harder than a DRK?"

[Neisan_Quetz]

Aside from giving the defense down effect Drk won't lose to Blu on harder mobs, outside.

There's nothing overpowered about BLU, it suffers from the same shortcomings as any other 1 hander on harder mobs. It's like asking to balance Pld tanking on fodder.

Not to mention using Bloodrake also locks out lolTerror which only lands on fodder anyway.

[Theytak]

DRK should get something that nobody else can do

Drks already complain better than any other job, even lolpretendmeleerdm and whiny smns. thfs don't even complain anymore, I think they've all just given up entirely, lol.

[Metaking]

truth i don't see a lot of blus using bloodrake (a move with-33%def comes to mind as to why) and most drks would probably take offense to being said to only be able to do 150 drain1, well the good ones anyhow >.>;. back on topic tho, bloodrake being a physical move also probably means it can miss.... if your going to compare it to something compare it to relic scythe ws which in 5 mins a drk will have weponskills god knows how many times and daring several thousand more hp. No if anyone has a reason to be mad at blu is drg since we are getting spells that trump agol (tho there still 5 min moves that can miss....)